Man dies after being detained at Calif. Walmart

[Curtis Baillie]

There were regular store clerks that assisted with his apprehension.

[PlateStacker]

There were regular store clerks that assisted with his apprehension.

The article says "Store Security". Which is Asset Protection they are referring to. Not regular Wal-Mart employees.
Regular store employees are not allowed to have anything to do with the apprehension of criminals in the store. They aren't allowed to do anything but notify the on duty AP and he take action. Also, the AP is the only one that is credible. Every once in a while, the Store Manager would watch or help us make a catch.

[SecTrainer]

I can only say that I don't believe a single solitary syllable that the Huffington Post reports about anything. In fact, it doesn't come within a thousand miles of being a "news source" at all.

Is there a more credible source for this story?

[Curtis Baillie]

Just google "walmart w. covina shoplifter death" and there are about two pages. I linked the H Post as it had additional info.

[PlateStacker]

I can only say that I don't believe a single solitary syllable that the Huffington Post reports about anything. In fact, it doesn't come within a thousand miles of being a "news source" at all.

Is there a more credible source for this story?

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Absolutely agree. They are as bad as those crazy "news" booklets by the checkout counter.

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[capurato]

My old district manager is now a market manager for Walmart. There is little consistency in the enforcement of their AP manual or policies and procedures. I also hope their is more to their manual than those 9 pages. Currently we have over 20 pages of policies and procedures just for external apprehensions. It appears at walmart they are not allowed to use force, so why are they chasing suspects? If you catch them, what are you going to do? There are hundreds of people stealing from each Walmart monthly. There will be another case.

Does anyone know if Walmart AP are rated on shrink reduction or on case stats? I think i will call my old Dlpm tomorrow.

[altacc12]

Then I guess you can expect to be subpoenaed for the criminal proceedings and subsequent civil action.

Why is that? Did I say I was involved in the stop? Was it my store? Absolutely not!. So do not tell me to "expect" a subpoena when I did nothing besides correctly train the AP. Also there is so much misinformation regarding Walmart policy. Walmart is allowed to use "reasonable" force to limit the movement of a suspect. Walmart is also allowed to "chase" a suspect for 10 feet or 3 big steps. But if a suspect ever breaks free from "restraint" per policy we could not "reengage" the suspect.

[PlateStacker]

Walmart is allowed to use "reasonable" force to limit the movement of a suspect. Walmart is also allowed to "chase" a suspect for 10 feet or 3 big steps. But if a suspect ever breaks free from "restraint" per policy we could not "reengage" the suspect.

Yup, this is exactly true. But honestly.. it's more at the AP discretion per each individual stop. I've worked with nothing but good experience AP's and have ever had anything not go as planned and not smooth.

It appears at walmart they are not allowed to use force, so why are they chasing suspects? If you catch them, what are you going to do? There are hundreds of people stealing from each Walmart monthly. There will be another case.

We are allowed to put hands on if needed. Obviously if they are not a threat, we usually try and avoid taking them down and cuffing them. Common sense says they don't want guys running thru the parking lot and thru town chasing BG's..

[Curtis Baillie]

Why is that? Did I say I was involved in the stop? Was it my store? Absolutely not!. So do not tell me to "expect" a subpoena when I did nothing besides correctly train the AP. Also there is so much misinformation regarding Walmart policy. Walmart is allowed to use "reasonable" force to limit the movement of a suspect. Walmart is also allowed to "chase" a suspect for 10 feet or 3 big steps. But if a suspect ever breaks free from "restraint" per policy we could not "reengage" the suspect.

You can expect to be involved as you said you trained one of the AP involved in the apprehension. All aspects of his/her training will be closely examined in the courtroom. I'm very aware of Walmart's policy as I have their policy and procedure manual.