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SecurityInfoWatch Forums - Discussions for the Security Professional http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/ Security discussion forums on topics of security management, policies, guard services, loss prevention, homeland security, alarm systems, network video, security jobs en Thu, 17 May 2012 01:48:45 GMT vBulletin 60 http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/images/misc/rss.png SecurityInfoWatch Forums - Discussions for the Security Professional http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/ NFC technology and tags? res http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12025-NFC-technology-and-tags-res&goto=newpost Wed, 16 May 2012 19:54:26 GMT Hi guys I am wondering if any of you are aware of the NFC technology that is integrated in smartphones. Where you can scan a tag in the Site area, to show management within 10 miles radious of where about you are. Can you guys please tell me what the flaws of this technology are? Is it... Hi guys

I am wondering if any of you are aware of the NFC technology that is integrated in smartphones. Where you can scan a tag in the Site area, to show management within 10 miles radious of where about you are.

Can you guys please tell me what the flaws of this technology are? Is it accurate? if the scan tags were moved about in the site area, would that be detected by management? or not . For example if guard keeps them on him/her so tagging is easier. Can this be detected by the management where this information is being sent too?

And how accurate is it in terms of locating exactly where the personell are? ]]> General Discussions Area slp http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12025-NFC-technology-and-tags-res Objectvideo sues former business partner Pelco http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12024-Objectvideo-sues-former-business-partner-Pelco&goto=newpost Tue, 15 May 2012 23:55:19 GMT From IPVM's website, http://ipvm.com/updates/1433

Quote:

The Complaint
The complaint mirrors OV's first lawsuit with an important new element. The core argument remains the same. ObjectVideo accuses Pelco of violating four of its patents. However, we notice one ominous element missing from the complaint in the first lawsuit. Specifically, the role and liability of end users is cited:

"Pelco indirectly infringes at least [certain claims of OV's patents] by instructing its end user customers to connect the accused Pelco camera products to a personal computer ... As directed by Pelco, the end users of the accused Pelco camera products directly infringe on [OV's patent] by using the combined system, making Pelco a contributory infringer and an inducer of infringement." [emphasis added]

It will be interesting to see how this approach plays out and why ObjectVideo is emphasizing the role and infringement of the end user.

According to: this website, 6696945 and 6970083 are the only patents named in the suit.

http://news.priorsmart.com/objectvideo-v-pelco-l67i/ ,

6,696,945: “Video tripwire” by Venetianer et. al. and assigned to DiamondBack Vision, Inc.. Prosecuted by Venable LLP Gluck; Jeffrey W.. Includes 37 claims (2 indep.). Was application 09/972,039. Filed 10/9/2001 & Granted 2/24/2004.

6,970,083: “Video tripwire” by Venetianer et. al. and assigned to Objectvideo, Inc.. Prosecuted by Venable LLP Sartori; Michael A. Gluck; Jeffrey W.. Includes 29 claims (6 indep.). Was application 10/704,645. Filed 11/12/2003 & Granted 11/29/2005.

Here is a 2009 excerpt from one of the "happy times" news releases.

Quote:

　
Pelco Sarix™-Based Cameras Incorporate ObjectVideo Analytics

Clovis, CA (August 13, 2009) – Pelco is pleased to announce its integration with ObjectVideo, the leader in intelligent video. In the ongoing commitment to open architecture solutions, Pelco has embedded the ObectVideo OnBoard suite of analytics software into its Sarix™-based megapixel series camera.

"The type of flexibility that ObjectVideo’s software provides is a perfect example of our commitment to openness and interoperability," says Dave deLisser, Pelco Director of Integration. "By using the open architecture capabilities of Sarix to host the industry leading analytics from ObjectVideo we are able to provide intelligent megapixel camera solutions."

According to Pelco management, this enables third-party systems that are also part of the OV Ready Partner Network to set rules, receive alerts, and configure communications with ObjectVideo-enabled Sarix™-based
technology cameras. OV Ready is ObjectVideo’s network protocol for interoperability of intelligent devices and video management platforms.

IPVM says it is not just Objectvideo's continuation of suing competitors to obtain licensing monies but bad blood between the two companies when their combined technologies didn't work. Wehn customers complained, both companies pointed fingers at the other. In my opinion, the customers are the big loser in all these cases because I have delt with Objectvideo and they do not perform up to what they claim and in all instances, pointed fingers at everyone but themselves. ]]> CCTV and Video Surveillance LARMGUY http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12024-Objectvideo-sues-former-business-partner-Pelco The meaning of some terms of alarm installation http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12023-The-meaning-of-some-terms-of-alarm-installation&goto=newpost Tue, 15 May 2012 03:30:01 GMT When you start DIY Your home security, there are some terms of the alarm systems you should know. The home security alarm system is designed smarter and intelligent. But at the same time, it showed too sophistical for home owners, end-users to DIY.

1. What is entry time & leaving time?

Entry time: It is alarm delay time. Arm the alarm system, and when it is triggered, it will send alarm out after the entry time set. That would enable people to disarm when miss trigger occurred.
Leaving time: It is arm delay time. Arm the alarm systems, and it will start to arm after leaving time set. That will enable people to leave home after house is armed.

2. What is at home arm/disarm and away home arm/disarm

At home arm/disarm: You can set some defense zones into one group, and use remote controller to arm/disarm with one click to set all. For example, you can set 1st floor, outdoor detectors armed but 2nd floor disarmed when you are at home.
Away home arm/disarm: You can set some defense zones into one group and use remote controller to arm/disarm with one click to set all. For example, you can set all floors armed when you are away home.

3. What is defense zones attribution?

The zones attribution include:
1. zone disabled. The alarm panel will not accept any information from this zone.
2. Burglar zones. The zones will be arm/disarmed etc. controlled via alarm panel. Alarm information will be burglar alarm.
3. Medical help: The zones will not be arm/disarmed controlled via alarm panel but 24 hours armed. Alarm information sent will be medical help alarm.
4. Fire alarm zone: The zones will not be arm/disarm controlled via alarm panel but 24 hours armed. Alarm information sent will be fire alarm.
5. Emergency zones: The zones will not be arm/disarm controlled via alarm panel but 24 hours armed. Alarm information sent will be emergency alarm.
6. Gas leakage zones: The zones will not be arm/disarm controlled via alarm panel but 24 hours armed. Alarm information sent will be gas leakage alarm.
7. Door bell zones: The zones will not be arm/disarmed controlled via alarm panel. But only door bell sound will be sent on-site. It will not dial out.

4. Telephone attribution:

Telephone attribution include:
1. Telephone disabled. The system will not dial this telephone when alarm.
2. Voice format: Voice alarm information will be sent when alarm.
3. CID format: CID alarm information will be sent when alarm.
4. Arm Center: Only dial when system is armed.
5. Disarm Center: Only dial when system is disarmed.
6. Low power: Only dial when alarm panel is with low power or AC power off.

5. Setting dialing times:

It is to set the most times of alarm dialing when alarm information is not dealt with.
If the user answered the call and disarmed the system, it will not dial any other telephones.
If the user answered the call and did not disarm the system but other operation, it will not dial this telephone but dial other telephones.

6. Setting ringing times of remote controlling:

You can set the ringing times to accept remote controlling such as arm/disarm, listening etc. via telephone or mobile.

7. Breaking into alarm function:

Breaking into alarm means when telephone line is occupied by telephone extension, the system will break into dial alarm and recover then.

8. Smart defense zones:

It is set to avoid false alarms. When the zones is set as smart zones, the system will not send alarm immediately, but wait till other status occurs in preset time. ]]> vedard http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12023-The-meaning-of-some-terms-of-alarm-installation Rattlesnake bites man at Walmart http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12022-Rattlesnake-bites-man-at-Walmart&goto=newpost Mon, 14 May 2012 19:54:05 GMT LEWISTON, Idaho (AP) — A man says he reached down to pick up a stick lying in the gardening aisle of a Wal-Mart in eastern Washington state, only to discover that it was a rattlesnake that then bit his hand. Read more... LEWISTON, Idaho (AP) — A man says he reached down to pick up a stick lying in the gardening aisle of a Wal-Mart in eastern Washington state, only to discover that it was a rattlesnake that then bit his hand. Read more ]]> Loss Prevention/Retail Security Curtis Baillie http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12022-Rattlesnake-bites-man-at-Walmart Hello from Texas..... http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12020-Hello-from-Texas&goto=newpost Sun, 13 May 2012 23:22:54 GMT I stumbled onto this site a few months ago and took some interest in some of the information and posts. And now I'm here....

I look forward to participating in the conversations about the business , and the aspects in the proper training of security personnel.. ]]> Introductions and Welcomes Tuff http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12020-Hello-from-Texas Geraldo Riveria Molested at the airport?? http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12019-Geraldo-Riveria-Molested-at-the-airport&goto=newpost Sun, 13 May 2012 15:58:31 GMT http://www.wwva.com/cc-common/news/s...ticle=10120785

You can't make this stuff up.

My wife and I are traveling to Wheeling West Virginia this summer
We were planning to fly to Pittsburgh, rent a car, and drive from Pittsburgh to Wheeling
More and more driving from Boston to Wheeling sounds fine with me
Copie too old to be fondeled in Boston or Pittsburgh ]]> Off Topic (non-security issues) copelandamuffy http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12019-Geraldo-Riveria-Molested-at-the-airport Disabled Shoplifters http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12018-Disabled-Shoplifters&goto=newpost Sun, 13 May 2012 04:53:34 GMT Anyone encounter any shoplifters without legs or arms and
you caught them stealing? Any disabled shoplifters?

I encountered a guy today at a grocery store on a wheelchair missing a leg
and I caught him stealing a bottle of alcohol and he wheel'ed away.

I gave chase and the manager in charge told me to back off and let him go.

What do you guys LP's normally do in this situation? Arrest him or just recover the merchandise? ]]> Loss Prevention/Retail Security macguard http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12018-Disabled-Shoplifters Curtis Stick shifts are coming back http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12017-Curtis-Stick-shifts-are-coming-back&goto=newpost Sat, 12 May 2012 19:40:58 GMT Curtis: Remember that 1960 Chevrolet Impala manual shift you learned to drive on?

It's back:eek:

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/05/01/c...6pLid%3D160259

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...sonic-new-cars

And if you lived in Massachusetts in 1966 you were required to learn to drive manual shift
Your parents had to be with you for the driver's test.

Manual shift any day if your in a snow storm ]]> Off Topic (non-security issues) copelandamuffy http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12017-Curtis-Stick-shifts-are-coming-back Amimals at my post http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12016-Amimals-at-my-post&goto=newpost Sat, 12 May 2012 14:26:55 GMT My overnight Officer told me the coyotes are out and about for the spring
She said what ever they had captured, was letting out a blood curling cry
Can turkeys and racoons tangle with each other?
Black Racer/Racing snake. He is not on the access list but I'm not telling him to go away
After a patrol of the lake, I walked out onto the parking lot, and Bambi was standing observing me
She probably guessed this whimp { that would be I} won' harm her.

What say you? Any bears on your site ]]> Off Topic (non-security issues) copelandamuffy http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12016-Amimals-at-my-post Professional Courtesy http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12015-Professional-Courtesy&goto=newpost Fri, 11 May 2012 18:55:10 GMT In an earlier thread I mentioned a poster on thehighroad.org that complained that he was asked to leave a mall in Pennsylvania when he showed up in full uniform to escort his daughter to her car. His contention was that the mall security took exception to the fact that he was armed (legal in... In an earlier thread I mentioned a poster on thehighroad.org that complained that he was asked to leave a mall in Pennsylvania when he showed up in full uniform to escort his daughter to her car. His contention was that the mall security took exception to the fact that he was armed (legal in Pennsylvania) and asked him to leave because of it. (To clarify he was on his way home from work, he didn't make a special trip to escort his daughter)

The more I read the thread the less it seems to be a “gun” issue to me.

Maybe it’s because of my background but I see it as an issue of professional courtesy and in my experience professional courtesy dictates that I don’t show up on your security company’s site in my security company’s uniform.

The only real experience I’ve had with this is a company that sent one of their guards to escort female employees to their cars in a parking garage that my employer was contracted to guard.
As long as the guard escorted the employees directly to their cars and took no other action I really had no problem with it.

So in the given situation, you are a licensed security guard on duty on client property and a person wearing the uniform of another company shows up on your site acting in what appears to be a professional capacity.
How do you respond?

What if he is just there as a customer?

Would you go on another company’s site (assuming it was open to the public) in your uniform? ]]> General Discussions Area Trunk Monkey http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12015-Professional-Courtesy <![CDATA[Occupy Cleveland, - city does not renew group's permit]]> http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12014-Occupy-Cleveland-city-does-not-renew-group-s-permit&goto=newpost Fri, 11 May 2012 12:10:29 GMT ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS *Source:* Associated Press CLEVELAND (AP) — Occupy protesters must ask serious questions about their open-arms policy in light of charges brought against five members accused of trying to blow up an Ohio bridge, a top Cleveland official said Wednesday. The... ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS Source: Associated Press

CLEVELAND (AP) — Occupy protesters must ask serious questions about their open-arms policy in light of charges brought against five members accused of trying to blow up an Ohio bridge, a top Cleveland official said Wednesday.
The city declined to renew the group's downtown encampment permit on Wednesday, a denial planned before the bridge plot arrests were announced Monday, said Ken Silliman, chief of staff to Mayor Frank Jackson. The group, which remained by its encampment tent Wednesday night despite a 5 p.m. deadline to leave, can still gather at a spot across the street day or night. Police are monitoring, but no arrests have been made.

Read the story ]]> Off Topic (non-security issues) Curtis Baillie http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12014-Occupy-Cleveland-city-does-not-renew-group-s-permit Leaving Work In Uniform http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12013-Leaving-Work-In-Uniform&goto=newpost Fri, 11 May 2012 00:34:29 GMT A friend of mine stopped at a Wal Mart on the way home from work one night and walked to the middle of some type of argument at the store. According to him the woman in the fight kept yelling at the man and then jumping behind my (in uniform) friend, who kept telling the woman that he didn’t work... A friend of mine stopped at a Wal Mart on the way home from work one night and walked to the middle of some type of argument at the store. According to him the woman in the fight kept yelling at the man and then jumping behind my (in uniform) friend, who kept telling the woman that he didn’t work for Wal-Mart security and wanted no part of her fight.

I just read a thread on thehighroad.org. In which a licensed armed security guard in Pennsylvania was asked to leave a mall when he showed up (in uniform) to pick up his daughter after work.

My question is this

Does anyone here make a point on not leaving work in uniform to avoid such entanglements?
I don’t completely change clothes but I do put on a jacket or a Dickie’s work shirt over my uniform shirt when I leave work for just that reason ]]> General Discussions Area Trunk Monkey http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12013-Leaving-Work-In-Uniform Had a heart attack Friday, and is now diabetic... http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12012-Had-a-heart-attack-Friday-and-is-now-diabetic&goto=newpost Thu, 10 May 2012 22:33:44 GMT Yup, my life sucks, but thanks to the missus I'm still alive...

Got 3 stents put in on Sun, went home on Tues, whole new thing I gotta get used to now... Sux... ]]> General Discussions Area flashlightcop509 http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12012-Had-a-heart-attack-Friday-and-is-now-diabetic Suggested Reading http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12011-Suggested-Reading&goto=newpost Thu, 10 May 2012 18:57:47 GMT I am looking for a few books to improve my investigation skills.
Is there any books someone could recomend on investigating or witness questioning & interrorgation? ]]> Safety, Protection and Training Warren14 http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12011-Suggested-Reading Civil rights lawsuit filed against Ariz. sheriff http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12010-Civil-rights-lawsuit-filed-against-Ariz-sheriff&goto=newpost Thu, 10 May 2012 18:49:53 GMT Civil rights lawsuit filed against Ariz. sheriff

JACQUES BILLEAUD Associated Press The Associated Press
Thursday, May 10, 2012 1:37 PM EDT

PHOENIX (AP) — Federal authorities sued America's self-proclaimed toughest sheriff Thursday, a rare step after months of negotiations failed to yield an agreement to settle allegations that his department racially profiled Latinos in his trademark immigration patrols.

The U.S. Department of Justice officials said the agency filed a lawsuit only once before in the 18-year history of its police reform work. The lawsuit escalates the standoff with Sheriff Joe Arpaio and puts the dispute on track to be decided by a federal judge.

Read the story >> ]]> Off Topic (non-security issues) Curtis Baillie http://forums.securityinfowatch.com/showthread.php?12010-Civil-rights-lawsuit-filed-against-Ariz-sheriff