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SecTrainer
08-06-2010, 12:42 PM
Over two thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel , "Pick up your shovels, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land."

Nearly 75 years ago welfare was introduced. Roosevelt said, "Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses and light up a Camel. This is the Promised Land."

Now Obama has busted my shovel, taxed my ass, raised the price of Camels, and mortgaged the Promised Land to the Chinese.

I was so depressed last night thinking about Health Care Plans, the economy, the wars, lost jobs, savings, Social Security, retirement funds, etc. . . I called the suicide hotline. Naturally, I got a freakin' call center in Pakistan.

When I told them I was suicidal they got all excited and asked if I could drive a truck.

1945sigk31
08-06-2010, 01:53 PM
ROFL :D:D this made my day

HotelSecurity
08-06-2010, 06:49 PM
Over two thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel , "Pick up your shovels, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land."

Nearly 75 years ago welfare was introduced. Roosevelt said, "Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses and light up a Camel. This is the Promised Land."

Now Obama has busted my shovel, taxed my ass, raised the price of Camels, and mortgaged the Promised Land to the Chinese.

I was so depressed last night thinking about Health Care Plans, the economy, the wars, lost jobs, savings, Social Security, retirement funds, etc. . . I called the suicide hotline. Naturally, I got a freakin' call center in Pakistan.

When I told them I was suicidal they got all excited and asked if I could drive a truck.

You're just depressed because there's a liberal in power. I wonder what you would do if you lived in Canada & the socialist ever won? I'm (depending on the subject) a right of center socialist or a left of center liberal & I'm stuck with a conservative federal govenment with a member of parliament from the separatist party. (They believe Quebec should be a separate French speaking country). and you're depressed:(

CTEXSEC1
08-06-2010, 08:04 PM
You're just depressed because there's a liberal in power. I wonder what you would do if you lived in Canada & the socialist ever won? I'm (depending on the subject) a right of center socialist or a left of center liberal & I'm stuck with a conservative federal govenment with a member of parliament from the separatist party. (They believe Quebec should be a separate French speaking country). and you're depressed:(

Oops...someone missed the joke

HotelSecurity
08-06-2010, 08:32 PM
Oops...someone missed the joke

No it's just that certain members have been p*ssing and moaning since the day the the last US president was elected.

CTEXSEC1
08-06-2010, 08:37 PM
No it's just that certain members have been p*ssing and moaning since the day the the last US president was elected.

1. It's a joke. Google it if you must.

2. Down here, we have the right to complain about our elected leaders. You would not understand, but our current elected leader is trying his damndest to eliminate private rights. That is something we value. Some of us tend to get a little testy when people interfere with that.

3. Why does it concern you anyway if Americans want to complain about their elected officials, especially if the leaders in question are dishonest and not fit for the task at hand?

HotelSecurity
08-06-2010, 10:43 PM
1. It's a joke. Google it if you must.

2. Down here, we have the right to complain about our elected leaders. You would not understand, but our current elected leader is trying his damndest to eliminate private rights. That is something we value. Some of us tend to get a little testy when people interfere with that.

3. Why does it concern you anyway if Americans want to complain about their elected officials, especially if the leaders in question are dishonest and not fit for the task at hand?

1) I knew it was a joke.

2) He was elected by a majority wasn't he. (Obviously not a majority of US members of this forum).

3) Start a sub forum entitled "liberal bashing" & I won't read it & we'd both be happy.

CTEXSEC1
08-06-2010, 11:31 PM
1) I knew it was a joke.

Riiight.

2) He was elected by a majority wasn't he. (Obviously not a majority of US members of this forum).

Not real familiar with how the Electoral College works, are ya? Regardless of who elected him, we have a Constitutional right to not like and say so. Get over it.

3) Start a sub forum entitled "liberal bashing" & I won't read it & we'd both be happy.


It's not "liberal bashing." It's pointing out the flaws in one seriously awful politician.

HotelSecurity
08-07-2010, 12:14 AM
It's not "liberal bashing." It's pointing out the flaws in one seriously awful politician.

How come I never saw any of it here when the last president who eitherlied or had bad advisors was in power? (There were NO weapons of mass destruction).

SecTrainer
08-07-2010, 02:50 AM
How come I never saw any of it here when the last president who eitherlied or had bad advisors was in power? (There were NO weapons of mass destruction).

Perhaps you're not aware that an American President doesn't have the authority to send a couple hundred thousand troops to invade another country merely on a whim. He has to get funding to do that, and the funding was approved by both conservatives AND liberals, all of whom saw exactly the same intelligence that the President had.

You shouldn't drink the Koolaid so much. It's really not good for your brain.

And now, will you kindly subside and leave us to our JOKE?

SecTrainer
08-07-2010, 02:51 AM
It's not "liberal bashing." It's pointing out the flaws in one seriously awful politician.

Amen and amen. The man is an unmitigated disaster...the most feckless, corrupt and, by far the most arrogant, administration we've ever had.

SafeCampus
08-07-2010, 03:43 AM
Disagree with your politics 100%- Love your joke tho 100%:D

CTEXSEC1
08-07-2010, 03:45 AM
How come I never saw any of it here when the last president who eitherlied or had bad advisors was in power? (There were NO weapons of mass destruction).

Really? You have definitive proof? That's what I thought...:rolleyes:

HotelSecurity
08-07-2010, 07:41 AM
Really? You have definitive proof? That's what I thought...:rolleyes:

You want me to prove a negative?

CTEXSEC1
08-07-2010, 05:07 PM
You want me to prove a negative?

What a surprising response. :rolleyes: You say there were no WMD's, but you have no proof. At all. Nothing, really.

HotelSecurity
08-07-2010, 09:51 PM
Exactly. You say there were no WMD's, but you have no proof. At all. Nothing, really.

There were WMD found ? Really? Where can I see pictures?

CTEXSEC1
08-07-2010, 09:54 PM
There were WMD found ? Really? Where can I see pictures?

Typical liberal response. Totally ignore known facts... :rolleyes: I'm too busy to look up much, so Wiki will do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack

I can guarantee you that psychopath didn't just stop using/manufacturing this stuff.

Back to the point...what does any of this have to do with our current political situation in the US? I'll give you a hint: nothing.

FireRanger
08-07-2010, 11:40 PM
How come I never saw any of it here when the last president who eitherlied or had bad advisors was in power? (There were NO weapons of mass destruction).

WMD was found, granted not in the amounts that they said were there but WMDs were found. The liberal MSM ensured that their Koolaid never had any mention of that on the packaging. While I was in Iraq, the local EOD unit told us that several old mortors of chemical weapon were found mixed with other standard explosive mortors in a insurgent cache.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1144627/posts

and

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=060622055545.07o4imol&show_article=1

integrator97
08-11-2010, 02:39 PM
I would venture a guess that 25% to 50% of the world governments then possess WMD. And WMD or not, it was a political war, which we never would have or could have entered into had 911 not occurred, even though the two are not related.

If we truly cared about WMD in the hands of unfriendly governments, we should have been knocking on North Korea's door. And once you look at North Korea and Iraq, all plausible explanations are out the window.

YANG
08-12-2010, 10:34 AM
Over two thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel , "Pick up your shovels, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the Promised Land."

Nearly 75 years ago welfare was introduced. Roosevelt said, "Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses and light up a Camel. This is the Promised Land."

Now Obama has busted my shovel, taxed my ass, raised the price of Camels, and mortgaged the Promised Land to the Chinese.

I was so depressed last night thinking about Health Care Plans, the economy, the wars, lost jobs, savings, Social Security, retirement funds, etc. . . I called the suicide hotline. Naturally, I got a freakin' call center in Pakistan.

When I told them I was suicidal they got all excited and asked if I could drive a truck.



LOL! Just made my day also.

CTEXSEC1
08-13-2010, 04:37 AM
How come I never saw any of it here when the last president who eitherlied or had bad advisors was in power? .

I take it you don't own a tv? EVERYONE bashed Bush. Hell, they still blame obama's failures on him.

HotelSecurity
08-13-2010, 09:48 AM
I take it you don't own a tv? EVERYONE bashed Bush. Hell, they still blame obama's failures on him.

I wrote how come I never read any of it HERE. I wasn't talking about tv I was talking about this forum.

CTEXSEC1
08-13-2010, 12:17 PM
I wrote how come I never read any of it HERE. I wasn't talking about tv I was talking about this forum.

Fair enough. I just did a quick search using only the word "bush" and selecting "show posts" and found something quite interesting. Most of the posts I looked at criticizing former president Bush, admittedly only a few because I have a busy day, were posted by...get this...wait for it...YOU. Forgetful...or just dishonest?

Again...back to the question of why you didn't see it. I have a couple of answers:

1. Blind liberal ignorance.

2. The fact that obama has lied, lied, and lied again to the American people more than ANY leader in recent memory.

3. The fact that our government is literally robbing people of their hard-earned money.

4. IT'S MY RIGHT TO CRITICIZE THE PRESIDENT (OR CALL HIM OUT FOR LYING). Get over it.

HotelSecurity
08-13-2010, 03:08 PM
Or maybe it's because I'm the only liberal ( I've also voted socalist) who is not afraid of being bullied by the majority of members that are far right wing on this forum. (I have received a PM from a member who is liberal but doesn't want to get shot down I guess.

And in a democratic country you certainly have the right to criticise your governement. My response to this joke was that the poster seems to obsessed in putting down your present president every chance he can. I say go for it but how about in a sub forum so we can avoid it if we don't want to read it?

FireRanger
08-13-2010, 03:41 PM
The problem with Obama, is that while liberals in other countries and muslims in other countries love the guy. Here at home, more and more Americans who are either middle of the road, right leaning liberal and even some middle left liberals are starting to open their eyes to what horrors our government is doing. Now don't get me wrong, the Bush Administration did some stupid **** too, but Obama is by far the worst President in history. Perhaps it isn't all that fair to compare him to Bush. I mean Bush got a country that was running relatively smoothly with few major problems compared to what Obama inherited from Bush.

That point showing all is wrong and the issues that Obama inherited are starting proof what non-liberals were saying leading up to the last election, Obama didn't have the experience to run a country in this condition, he is wether on purpose or not running it into the ground and fast approaching hell. (I often refer to liberals who are waking up to Obama as sitting in basket going "is that sulfur I smell? Wait why are in this basket?" And no I didn't want the McCain/Palin ticket to win either. I voted for someone else instead. In any event I find it funny how America was a Super Power a leading nation until our politics started becoming socialistic and liberal, more and more.

You know I would love to say something to pick on Canada and it's politics, but you know what I got nothing because I could care less what you and your country do. Though not arming your border guards because the local Canadian Natives threatned violence is kinda funny. Let those natives of yours try that **** with our border patrol, there will be a very different outcome, I assure you.

HotelSecurity
08-13-2010, 05:33 PM
Though not arming your border guards because the local Canadian Natives threatned violence is kinda funny. Let those natives of yours try that **** with our border patrol, there will be a very different outcome, I assure you.

Canada has started to arm it's border guards.

FireRanger
08-13-2010, 05:59 PM
Hmmm, well if you can supply me a news article or other link that supports your argument then I admit I am wrong. However until that time, I will have to believe the information I saw is correct and they stopped that plan due to local canadian natives along a particular part of the border.

http://www.leaderpost.com/news/Plan+border+guards+native+chief+warns/1644252/story.html

and

http://www.leaderpost.com/Border+guards+leave+eastern+Ontario+post/1649395/story.html

and to qoute this particular post

"The American customs post has been heavily armed for years," said Thompson, who is familiar with the Akwesasne territory where the Canadian border post is located. He said the American guards "all wear sidearms. What's more, you go into the office, and there's a rack of automatic rifles sitting there behind the front counter."

Why don't militants at Akwesasne threaten confrontations with the Americans?

"Because the Americans will shoot back," said Thompson.

Instead of being cowed by threats, Canadian officials should properly arm its border agents on the reserve..."

ScottFree
08-13-2010, 06:27 PM
Or maybe it's because I'm the only liberal ( I've also voted socalist) who is not afraid of being bullied by the majority of members that are far right wing on this forum. (I have received a PM from a member who is liberal but doesn't want to get shot down I guess.

And in a democratic country you certainly have the right to criticise your governement. My response to this joke was that the poster seems to obsessed in putting down your present president every chance he can. I say go for it but how about in a sub forum so we can avoid it if we don't want to read it?

HS, i have always kind of liked you, so i have to ask myself, for someone who is so bothered by things being said about Obama, and wanting a seperate forum so you can avoid entanglement, you sure seem to want people to agree with you because of what you say.

The simple fact is, the more you believe the way you believe, and the more Sec, FireRanger or Ctex or I believe, the more we are going to disagree with you. How is me creating a post stating that i dislike X person for Y policy for Z reasons equate to bullying?

I dont care how many articles, stories, facts or whatever you cite, or number of people that agree with you, i am not going to agree with you, because i believe differently. I dont see it as bullying, or even that you "dont get it" i see it that you think things should be done one way, and i think they should be done another.

My life is far to short to worry about whether 10 people or 10k people agree or disagree with what i say. Instead, i find that if i engage people, share thoughts and ideas in an honest way, if we still fundamentally disagree afterwords, we can still go drink a beer, and know that in a bad situation i will have your back and you will have mine. In life i feel this is the most important thing in dealing with other people.

HotelSecurity
08-13-2010, 06:28 PM
This is cut and pasted from one of the articles you listed: The CBSA plans to arm 4,800 officers across the country by 2016 at land and marine ports of entry. There are currently 870 armed border guards across Canada, with the first group deployed in August 2007, the agency said.

Read more: http://www.leaderpost.com/news/Plan+border+guards+native+chief+warns/1644252/story.html#ixzz0wWlywhxo

The dispute is on 1 reserve along the 3000 mile long border. No where in the article did I read that Canada was going to stop arming it's border guards because of it.

CTEXSEC1
08-13-2010, 07:22 PM
Or maybe it's because I'm the only liberal ( I've also voted socalist) who is not afraid of being bullied by the majority of members that are far right wing on this forum. (I have received a PM from a member who is liberal but doesn't want to get shot down I guess.

And in a democratic country you certainly have the right to criticise your governement. My response to this joke was that the poster seems to obsessed in putting down your present president every chance he can. I say go for it but how about in a sub forum so we can avoid it if we don't want to read it?

Who is "bullying" you? I simply pointed out your hypocrisy. In fact, if anybody should be offended here, it is we "right-wingers." You are the one pushing for a separate sub-forum so you don't have to be offended by things that nobody is forcing you to read( things that have NOTHING to do with your country.) That's pretty damn close to censorship in my book. You may not like rights, but I sure do. Also, use some brain power here. If you know this poster is going to post things you don't like, why read his posts? Is it because, like all liberals, you just have an undeniable urge to find something to offend you? The only obsession I see is the drive to find something to cry about that really has no bearing on you personally.

FireRanger
08-13-2010, 09:53 PM
First, HotelSecurity the article supports my position where it says that the Border Agents left their post, requiring local LEOs to shutdown the portal. They left their post due to fears of violence. Here in the US, our Border Agents would have locked and loaded their pistols, shottys and any other firearms they had available for their use. Your government (through the action of it's Border Agents) gave in to what demands of the local native tribe. The article also clearly states this same tribe doesn't screw with the US Agents because they know that they will stand their ground and do whatever it takes to hold their position. Just because a government plans to do something doesn't mean they will follow through. Our government plans on providing first rate healthcare to all of its citizens, and so far they are failing to follow through on that.

To Ctex, I have seen HotelSecurity stand up for his rights on another board and doing so caused him to be banned. He does enjoy his rights, especially his right to free speach, free thought and freedom of opinion. Which more or less all go together, but he isn't afraid to share his views with anyone on here.

Finally back to HotelSec, please do not get me wrong. I like hearing your opinions and I miss your thoughts on the other board. Thank you for standing up sharing your points of view, while they are usually vastly different from my own, I personally like to hear and see others thoughts and opinions. This I think makes me a better person, and so since you willing share your opinion with me, thank you for helping me to enrich myself as I try to understand other view points. I think that if both Left and Right wing and every other political sect in the world tried to see eye to eye and understand each other, just a little bit. We would all be better off, I mean think about it in WWII, our government stood together as one, regardless of political views to ensure that we won the war against Germany and the war against Japan. There was no infighting or trying to make a political spin over who voted for approval of the military's war budget. It was just done. I think we all could stand to learn a lessen from history and stand together when and where it counts.

PS to the person who PM'd HotelSecurity, I apologize for the other Conservative folk and myself who may have caused you to feel afraid to share your view points. I wish you would speak up and share them, because sharing view points regardless of how crazy they are (like socialistic healthcare, being a TacticooolMallNinjaOfficer, etc) is what makes this board great.

CTEXSEC1
08-13-2010, 10:16 PM
To Ctex, I have seen HotelSecurity stand up for his rights on another board and doing so caused him to be banned. He does enjoy his rights, especially his right to free speach, free thought and freedom of opinion. Which more or less all go together, but he isn't afraid to share his views with anyone on here.

No disrespect, but what HS did elsewhere in the past is pretty much immaterial now as this is this instant. He is basically encouraging censorship. I am sure he is all about HIS free speech. He only appears to have a problem when something "offends" him.

ETA: After reading HS' response, it appears that I was right. He quit a forum after getting "censored":rolleyes: for whining about a decision made by THE OWNER.

SecTrainer
08-13-2010, 11:13 PM
Or maybe it's because I'm the only liberal ( I've also voted socalist) who is not afraid of being bullied by the majority of members that are far right wing on this forum. (I have received a PM from a member who is liberal but doesn't want to get shot down I guess.

And in a democratic country you certainly have the right to criticise your governement. My response to this joke was that the poster seems to obsessed in putting down your present president every chance he can. I say go for it but how about in a sub forum so we can avoid it if we don't want to read it?

Actually, HS, if you'll really do your research, you'll find that I've posted very few criticisms of Obama since his election, desiring to give him the benefit of the doubt. It is only recently that I've posted a few critical comments - and VERY few. It hasn't been necessary to point out Obama's shortcomings because he's doing such a great job of that himself.

Obama was a very questionable choice as a candidate, and prior to the election I made no secret that he had many truly frightening traits, the worst being that he was - and is - a total lightweight. I knew he would be over his head - and he has been, in virtually every single area of leadership from foreign policy to domestic policy to economic policy.

Having given him the benefit of the doubt, and Obama having proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that the office is simply too much for him, I will no doubt post again. When you see a post that I author, either read it or not, but if you do read it, please be sure you're wearing your big-boy panties. Don't whine that I didn't give you some sort of advanced special notice that there might be something you CAN'T DEAL WITH.

SecTrainer
08-13-2010, 11:21 PM
No disrespect, but what HS did elsewhere in the past is pretty much immaterial now as this is this instant. He is basically encouraging censorship. I am sure he is all about HIS free speech. He only appears to have a problem when something "offends" him.

Amen and amen! HS likes, well, whatever HS thinks. I doubt he was ever banned from any board merely for expressing a liberal viewpoint, and we now all know that he can take offense over a simple joke and turn it into a food fight, so....

HotelSecurity
08-14-2010, 12:29 AM
I wasn't banned from the other board. I quit after being censored. It wasn't for political reasons either. The owner of the board wanted to change the name to include "law enforcement" in order to attract more police officers. I objected to the name change & was censored. I quit. I miss the people there too.

I never siggested censoring anyone on this board. I suggested a sub forum that I can choose not to read if I don't want to. A thread entitled Why I'm Depressed gives me no clue that it is going to be an anti liberal joke. I could add SecTrainer to my ignore list but I really don't want to because he posts MANY interesting & infomative posts.

CTEXSEC1
08-14-2010, 04:39 AM
I wasn't banned from the other board. I quit after being censored. It wasn't for political reasons either. The owner of the board wanted to change the name to include "law enforcement" in order to attract more police officers. I objected to the name change & was censored. I quit. I miss the people there too.

I never siggested censoring anyone on this board. I suggested a sub forum that I can choose not to read if I don't want to. A thread entitled Why I'm Depressed gives me no clue that it is going to be an anti liberal joke. I could add SecTrainer to my ignore list but I really don't want to because he posts MANY interesting & infomative posts.

Suggesting that someone post somewhere else simply because you don't like what they have to say is pretty much censorship. It is trying to stifle their sharing of their opinion. Oh before I forget: "liberal" and "obama" are not the same thing, so try not to get confused here. Also, political jokes have been around for a long time. If you cannot handle them, perhaps you just need to step away from technology so you don't accidentally see it again.


ETA: You never answered me. You claim that you never saw anyone here ripping on Bush, yet a simple search brought up your handle doing most of the complaining. I won't even get into how ignorant it is to try and act like you understand the politics of another country. So...which is it? Are you forgetful...or just dishonest?

HotelSecurity
08-14-2010, 08:26 AM
LIAR. Suggesting that someone post somewhere else simply because you don't like what they have to say is pretty much censorship. It is trying to stifle their sharing of their opinion. Oh before I forget: "liberal" and "obama" are not the same thing, so try not to get confused here. Also, political jokes have been around for a long time. If you cannot handle them, perhaps you just need to step away from technology so you don't accidentally see it again.


ETA: You never answered me. You claim that you never saw anyone here ripping on Bush, yet a simple search brought up your handle doing most of the complaining. I won't even get into how ignorant it is to try and act like you understand the politics of another country. So...which is it? Are you forgetful...or just dishonest?

This post has been reported. There is no need to call someone a LIAR. I will no longer engage in a debate with you.

N. A. Corbier
08-14-2010, 09:54 AM
This thread has devolved into very no territory.

SecTrainer
08-14-2010, 12:58 PM
(Sob!) My beautiful joke tossed in the burn barrel, and all because one member had to start a food fight over it.

Sure, an' it's a sad, sad day, Constable O'Corbier. But I do understand ye need to keep a fight from eruptin' outside the pub.

N. A. Corbier
08-14-2010, 02:52 PM
(Sob!) My beautiful joke tossed in the burn barrel, and all because one member had to start a food fight over it.

Sure, an' it's a sad, sad day, Constable O'Corbier. But I do understand ye need to keep a fight from eruptin' outside the pub.

I still don't get the idea of a burn barrel, normally I'd just lock the thread... but I feel this might get back on track some day and then it can be moved back...

This thread can be rehabilitated!

(I guess a lot of you don't use "new posts," and therefore "skip" this section. I use new posts, so I see every new post on the forums. I guess that's why I don't "get" the burn barrel.)

SecTrainer
08-14-2010, 11:50 PM
Services for my deceased joke will be held at the Clown Museum on Wednesday at 1 PM. The family requests that friends crack a smile in lieu of sending flowers.

HotelSecurity
08-15-2010, 12:15 AM
Services for my deceased joke will be held at the Clown Museum on Wednesday at 1 PM. The family requests that friends crack a smile in lieu of sending flowers.

Do you have the death penalty in your state?

SecTrainer
08-16-2010, 07:11 AM
Do you have the death penalty in your state?

No, HS. We punish joke assassins by forcing you to gaze at photos of the world's most hideous left-handed pecker-pincher (Nancy Pelosi, of course) while practicing the phrase "No, I don't care for any more Kommie Koolaid, thank you" until you finally get it right. Of course, there's always the possibility that you go mad before being rehabilitated, thus giving the liberals another potential Congressional candidate, but that's the risk we take.

ScottFree
08-16-2010, 11:57 AM
I am currently filing a lawsuit against Sec for violating the 8th amendments restriction on cruel and unusual punishment. Nobody should have to stare at that photo and listen to her speeches, its just plain wrong....

CameraMan
08-16-2010, 12:03 PM
I am currently filing a lawsuit against Sec for violating the 8th amendments restriction on cruel and unusual punishment. Nobody should have to stare at that photo and listen to her speeches, its just plain wrong....

Well, it's cruel, certainly, but if you've been on the internet for any length of time, it isn't so unusual, is it?