Got hired for loomis

[dc5rsx]

Hi guys I recently jus got hired for loomis armored.I went for an interview then couple days later they called me and told me to take their road test.I passed that then went for drug/physical fitness test.everything came out good.then today i was told I have to take a defensive driving coarse next week then ater that they are sending me for 3 day training .Now my question is does anyone know what type of training it is and what I can do to prepare myself.thanks

[Maelstrom]

Hi guys I recently jus got hired for loomis armored.I went for an interview then couple days later they called me and told me to take their road test.I passed that then went for drug/physical fitness test.everything came out good.then today i was told I have to take a defensive driving coarse next week then ater that they are sending me for 3 day training .Now my question is does anyone know what type of training it is and what I can do to prepare myself.thanks


Hmmm... company specific training, I doubt they would want all and sundry knowing all their secrets, best you can do is make sure you're well rested & take a spare pen! :D

GL ;)

[jprovi1]

I am planning on getting into armored car when I hit 21 myself. I will be watching this thread with intrest.

[wvd1979]

Good luck to you.

[rabidjade]

3 days isn't much. The training is probably job specific showing you their procedures and possible shadowing the route you are taking with your future partners. I know a few who have people who have worked in the Armored Car industry and they all told me the training is nothing special.

[Son-Of-A-Pilot]

Congratulations on getting the job.

I would have to agree, the training is probably company and client or route specific. Three days seems a little short, so I bet it will be intensive. I would be prepared for just about anything .... from classroom work to even some practical lab training.

Best of luck to you.

[N. A. Corbier]

Its probably things like, "How to get into the truck." "How to get out of the truck." "How to cover an approach." "No, the gun ports don't work." "If anything happens, drive."

[dc5rsx]

thanks for replies...Ill keep you guys updated on how everything goes.

[JohnTriton]

A large part of that training will be getting certified in CPR, First Aid, handgun/shotgun, (carry permit). You will be going to some classes, taking tests, passing tests. It all should be paid training, so good luck and shoot straight!!

[mjw064]

"No, the gun ports don't work."

Wait?!?! Are you serious? So, I don't have to worry about getting shot by an armored car operator through those things when I stop an armored car for traffic violations? For some reason, they never want to open their doors and we always get in a shouting match which generally puts them in extreme risk of arrest.

[doulos Christou]

Wait?!?! Are you serious? So, I don't have to worry about getting shot by an armored car operator through those things when I stop an armored car for traffic violations? For some reason, they never want to open their doors and we always get in a shouting match which generally puts them in extreme risk of arrest.

How many armored trucks are you stopping for traffic violations with your desk?

[mjw064]

How many armored trucks are you stopping for traffic violations with your desk?

Perhaps you misunderstand or simply do not understand how police departments work.

Although I work in an administrative unit, I am still a police officer. As such, anytime I am out and about (say, conducting a threat assessment or even just getting lunch for instance), I am still a police officer and as long as I am in uniform, I do all the normal things a cop would do. I also work approximately 24-36hrs per week on overtime (yes per week) on the street as a patrol officer ... so it isn't like I lock myself in my office for 40hrs a week and never see a bad guy, like you seem to think.

Additionally, in the District, we have something called ALL HANDS ON DECK (AHOD) weekends every other week in the summer. During an AHOD, all sworn personnel from DC's 3 police forces, including desk jockeys (no matter rank), work the streets as a regular patrol officers. This puts about 4,000 police officers on the street during these weekends.

Lastly, this particular situation happened twice last summer when I was working a foot beat in the downtown area. I had a problem with armored car operators on more than one occasion ... I actually wouldn't have hassled them beyond a verbal order, but they always would refuse to comply with my verbal orders, which on two occasions nearly resulted in the drivers arrest.

[LiveNlearn]

When I was an Armored Car guy I was stopped once. It was a long day and I was going a wee bit fast trying to get the last couple of stops in.

I would guess that the guards were training that they do not open the doors for anyone. no matter what unifrom they are wearing. It is a safety and liability issue for the company and the officer.

in my case - my truck did not have gun ports so the hollering began. I told him i could not get out of the truck until I had gotten in touch with my dispatcher and they had verified the stop. About five minutes later that was done and I hopped out, we had a short conversation and i was on my way.

When I was teaching new people I always tried to let them know that they have to use good sense. they have a radio or a phone, they need to use it to get everying on the same page a quickly as possible to keep the stop from going downhill.

[jtwestern]

When stopping an armored transport vehicle. I just have my dispatch call theirs, provide the request to pull over where it's safe for them, and then have the driver exit and secure the truck. No need to get into a pissing contest. They have their rules and we should respect them.

Heck, it's just a VC violation and it's not like they are going to get away.

[dc5rsx]

Guys I have another question..when unloading money from a truck whether its for an atm or bank what is the procedure.In other words does one guy place the money the other one watches his back or?:confused:

[Lawson]

Around here that's how it used to be, but not anymore. Now it's just one guy sits in the driver seat, the other takes the money in and hopes nothing bad happens.

[doulos Christou]

Guys I have another question..when unloading money from a truck whether its for an atm or bank what is the procedure.In other words does one guy place the money the other one watches his back or?:confused:

Sometimes you will luck out. When I worked as a bank officer, we had orders to provide additonal eyes/ears/sidearms when the armored truck would arrive. Other than that, the driver stays put and the other one moves the money around.

[mjw064]

When stopping an armored transport vehicle. I just have my dispatch call theirs, provide the request to pull over where it's safe for them, and then have the driver exit and secure the truck. No need to get into a pissing contest. They have their rules and we should respect them.

Heck, it's just a VC violation and it's not like they are going to get away.

In both cases, there were special circumstances. Namely, a Roadrunner (presidential or vice-presidential movement) getting ready to move through ... obviously an armored truck on the motorcade route presents a major problem. Also, the situation was the driver sitting in the vehicle in the block and ignoring my orders to move and subsequent request for identification ... not refusing to pull over.

[JohnTriton]

Some of those drivers think they are "King of the Road" So I can see your frustration with them. (Dumb A**Dunbar)

[gonzo1510]

Hmmm... company specific training, I doubt they would want all and sundry knowing all their secrets, best you can do is make sure you're well rested & take a spare pen! :D

GL ;)

+1


Its probably things like, "How to get into the truck." "How to get out of the truck." "How to cover an approach." "No, the gun ports don't work." "If anything happens, drive."

again +1...


A large part of that training will be getting certified in CPR, First Aid, handgun/shotgun, (carry permit). You will be going to some classes, taking tests, passing tests. It all should be paid training, so good luck and shoot straight!!

Yeah...right. it is paid training thought but that is not be a part of it.



Wait?!?! Are you serious? So, I don't have to worry about getting shot by an armored car operator through those things when I stop an armored car for traffic violations? For some reason, they never want to open their doors and we always get in a shouting match which generally puts them in extreme risk of arrest.

We are taught NEVER to open any of the doors..even for executive staff


....Lastly, this particular situation happened twice last summer when I was working a foot beat in the downtown area. I had a problem with armored car operators on more than one occasion ... I actually wouldn't have hassled them beyond a verbal order, but they always would refuse to comply with my verbal orders, which on two occasions nearly resulted in the drivers arrest.

you have to understand that, without knowing the specifics of your situation, your situation or the inconvenience(blocking a traffic lane,etc..) of the general public will never supercede the safety of the messenger... We will always refuse a peace officers orders unless there is a genuine emergency. PD's will usually call our dispatch for a traffic infraction at which point we are to proceed to the nearest Police Station where the citation is to be issued. The only people we move our trucks for are firefighters on a call.

[Maelstrom]

I actually wouldn't have hassled them beyond a verbal order, but they always would refuse to comply with my verbal orders, which on two occasions nearly resulted in the drivers arrest.

I'd like to been a fly on the wall for that one...

mjw - "Okay smart *** you're under arrest get out of the vehicle"

driver - "No"


Until they've verified who you are, you're just some bloke in a cop's uniform (and that's how I'd treat you too) ;)

[psycosteve]

Perhaps you misunderstand or simply do not understand how police departments work.

Although I work in an administrative unit, I am still a police officer. As such, anytime I am out and about (say, conducting a threat assessment or even just getting lunch for instance), I am still a police officer and as long as I am in uniform, I do all the normal things a cop would do. I also work approximately 24-36hrs per week on overtime (yes per week) on the street as a patrol officer ... so it isn't like I lock myself in my office for 40hrs a week and never see a bad guy, like you seem to think.

Additionally, in the District, we have something called ALL HANDS ON DECK (AHOD) weekends every other week in the summer. During an AHOD, all sworn personnel from DC's 3 police forces, including desk jockeys (no matter rank), work the streets as a regular patrol officers. This puts about 4,000 police officers on the street during these weekends.

Lastly, this particular situation happened twice last summer when I was working a foot beat in the downtown area. I had a problem with armored car operators on more than one occasion ... I actually wouldn't have hassled them beyond a verbal order, but they always would refuse to comply with my verbal orders, which on two occasions nearly resulted in the drivers arrest.

Just as a friendly reminder DC Cops are not to be messed with , they are almost as bad as PG cops , in fact they recruit from the cesspool but I believe the skimmer works a little bit better on the DC side( sense the crack head stopped being the mayor). In DC if you get a ticket from a cop pray it is not one of the young gung ho rookies, trust me on this . I got pulled over for making an illegal lane change what ever that means , while I am on my way from Tyson's corner to Marlow Heights using the 66 to 50 as a cut through cause 495 was a parking lot . I got searched and get a ticket for having a hard badge in the car ( note not on my shirt , not in my pocket but in the car ), I had my car impounded , and put in a holding cell for 2 hours till they could run my guard card . Good thing I was only wearing my white tee shirt and slacks to drive in or I would have been killed in that holding cell. I get out and my car was impounded 20 miles away in PG , in fact my car was not even at the lot when I got a cab to get it but it still cost me $250 to get it out and then the storage yard wanted to charge me a storage fee on top of that .
I say this just as a reminder that DC does not care who or what you are, if they even think that you are breaking a law your going to get arrested and hassled. You are guilty in till proven innocent not the other way around . DC plays by its own set of rules and the sooner that people realize it the better .

[mjw064]

I'd like to been a fly on the wall for that one...

mjw - "Okay smart *** you're under arrest get out of the vehicle"

driver - "No"


Until they've verified who you are, you're just some bloke in a cop's uniform (and that's how I'd treat you too) ;)

HaHa. This is exactly what was going through my mind ... I was really hoping that he would just comply, since I knew there wasn't much I could do to make him, if he kept ignoring me. But like I said, with an imminent roadrunner, I had to get my assigned block cleared and failure wasn't an option.

[LiveNlearn]

Guys I have another question..when unloading money from a truck whether its for an atm or bank what is the procedure.In other words does one guy place the money the other one watches his back or?:confused:

That is generally information that you would learn in training

[Echos13]

Its probably things like, "How to get into the truck." "How to get out of the truck." "How to cover an approach." "No, the gun ports don't work." "If anything happens, drive."

Heh. The Dunbar guys I talk to every day pretty much said the same thing.

[dc5rsx]

ALso I was told in a couple months I would receive my gun permit. Would this mean I will still be a driver or sit in the back seat handling the money??If I am the driver isnt it tru the driver never leaves his front seat which also means there is no need for a gun?!!

[jtwestern]

dc,

These are questions to ask your employer, not here. Also: OPSEC applies. Although most treat it as a joke, it's really stupid to post operational information where anyone can get it.

And before mjw flames me. Yeah. I know all this is well known. But why post intell that will make it easier for me to hit you?

[Maelstrom]

Also: OPSEC applies. Although most treat it as a joke, it's really stupid to post operational information where anyone can get it.

+1 110% agreed! ;)


It's not just your safety being compromised... it's your colleagues as well (better NOT to let the cat out of the bag in the first place) :)

[SecTrainer]

I never did hassle armored truck drivers. On one occasion I took a truck number and contacted the supervisor about a bit of bad driving I observed. Otherwise, I had a lot of respect for the risks these folks take and didn't care to add to those risks in order to write a traffic citation. On the other hand, I can't say that I saw trucks racing around town, committing all sorts of VC violations or driving carelessly, either. It would have had to be something pretty significant (endangering the public) for me to light up an armored truck. Did they always come to a complete stop and say 30 Hail Marys at stop signs? No...I suppose not, but we didn't have any significant driving problems with them so let 'em get on with their job.

MJW, I'm having a lot of trouble with the motorcade thing, which is simply ludicrous. Someone ain't thinkin', because I can think of six different protocols that would eliminate the need for any armored truck driver to take the word of some slob wearing a cop uniform who happens to walk up to the truck and start yelling orders through the gun port.

[mjw064]

MJW, I'm having a lot of trouble with the motorcade thing, which is simply ludicrous. Someone ain't thinkin', because I can think of six different protocols that would eliminate the need for any armored truck driver to take the word of some slob wearing a cop uniform who happens to walk up to the truck and start yelling orders through the gun port.

There is usually less than a 5 minute window between when uniforms start getting dispatched to clear streets and when the actual movement occurs. There are some additional protocols which happen, but in the interest of OPSEC, I didn't get into that.

Also, in both the cases I was talking about, the armored car operator was already sitting somewhere that they shouldn't have been sitting. The operator probably assumed I was simply trying to hassle them about the parking infraction ... which I wasn't.

[Black Caesar]

Had a similar thing once during a visit from our Governor. an Armored car pulled into one of our lots while one of thier guys went to service an atm across the street (where there was no parking). The Governors protective detail called us and I went to talk to the driver. finally got him moved after much discussion through the glass , only after a call to the number on the back of the vehicle.

[SecTrainer]

There is usually less than a 5 minute window between when uniforms start getting dispatched to clear streets and when the actual movement occurs. There are some additional protocols which happen, but in the interest of OPSEC, I didn't get into that.

Also, in both the cases I was talking about, the armored car operator was already sitting somewhere that they shouldn't have been sitting. The operator probably assumed I was simply trying to hassle them about the parking infraction ... which I wasn't.


So...I'm driving an armored truck. I'm parked somewhere without "cause" (I'm not engaged in my assigned duties) - where my truck isn't supposed to be - and I refuse to move my truck? It doesn't fly. There has to be some REASON that a driver refuses to move his truck - especially to the point that he comes "close to being arrested".

We're not talking about some obstinate visitor to the city, but about commercial drivers who are constantly plying the city streets in their daily jobs, and who presumably should be receiving training and instruction about what to do under such circumstances, since motorcades are obviously to be expected in DC. Even using a technique as simple as the traditional "challenge and response" used by military sentries, although not perfect, would be preferable to the kind of thing you're describing.

We're talking armored trucks here...not a cab driver waiting for a fare or some lady refusing to move her baby buggy out of the crosswalk. The truck is at extreme risk of being ordered into an alley or in some other way positioned for an ambush by a phony cop, so if I own such a company I'm going to have to have something more than a "cop" waving his arms and shouting at my drivers. I was born at night, but not LAST night.

In a city with - what, hundreds? - of motorcades a year, there should be means of removing all doubt from a driver's mind that he's not being set up. You have a need and the armored truck company has a need, and they don't have to conflict. And all you have to do is to look at the history of armored truck robberies to understand why - absent certainty about an officer's authenticity - the last thing an armored truck driver should do is to blindly obey someone merely because they're wearing a uniform and badge. And it could be so easily avoided just by doing a little thinking about this from the viewpoint of the armored truck companies.

I'll come to DC and fix this up for you if you'd like, and it won't cost much either. This is silly.

[SecTrainer]

Had a similar thing once during a visit from our Governor. an Armored car pulled into one of our lots while one of thier guys went to service an atm across the street (where there was no parking). The Governors protective detail called us and I went to talk to the driver. finally got him moved after much discussion through the glass , only after a call to the number on the back of the vehicle.

...and what did you do regarding the guy servicing the ATM now that you moved the truck? You can't just leave him with his a$$ hanging out in the breeze, and once you move that truck out of position he becomes a police responsibility as far as I'm concerned.

Of course, this wasn't a good situation anyway, with the truck parked across the street, although at least the driver could presumably observe his partner. Aside from a situation where a truck would completely block traffic, we allowed armored trucks to park wherever they felt they were in the best position (risk-wise) to make a pickup or delivery, "no parking" zone or not. Usually, this was as close as they could get to the client's entrance. Finest-kind as far as we were concerned. They parked, did their thing and were on their way. We figured that if they were blocking a fire hydrant and the Chicago fire broke out, the driver was present and would move the truck.

Basically, we just never had much hoo-ha when it came to armored trucks. I rarely gave them a single thought other than to pay some extra ("protective", not "parking enforcement") attention to them when I came across them on patrol. We all got along swimmingly as we each went about our business.

[mjw064]

In a city with - what, hundreds? - of motorcades a year, there should be means of removing all doubt from a driver's mind that he's not being set up. You have a need and the armored truck company has a need, and they don't have to conflict. And all you have to do is to look at the history of armored truck robberies to understand why - absent certainty about an officer's authenticity - the last thing an armored truck driver should do is to blindly obey someone merely because they're wearing a uniform and badge. And it could be so easily avoided just by doing a little thinking about this from the viewpoint of the armored truck companies.

I'll come to DC and fix this up for you if you'd like, and it won't cost much either. This is silly.

This is usually only an issue for POTUS. Other motorcades generally don't require cleared streets. Also, when this is getting ready to go down, you would almost have to be a moron to not realize what is going down ... the streets suddenly fill with police cruisers sitting at the corner of every intersection, while police and DPW cranes with lights and sirens are removing cars that are parked in the middle of the street and other bad places.

I will admit, I never really thought about it in these contexts before. The bosses, I am pretty sure have not either. So yeah, it probably could be handled better ... you are correct.

[Black Caesar]

...and what did you do regarding the guy servicing the ATM now that you moved the truck?

The driver collected his man and the supervisor I talked to said they come back later. We explained it was a special case, they pull into our lot all the time because of the ease of access to their machine (the street is a weird curve, our lot exit isn't far from the machine), they just needed to move that day.

[CorpSec]

In my humblest of opinions, working armored car security is one of the lowest rungs in the security profession. The responsibility is very high and the danger is fairly high as well. However the pay and benefits are poor.

If I recall correctly armored car couriers do not get overtime until over 60 hours per week since they are under DOT regulations.

I can't believe they get people to do that kind of work for the money they pay. It seems they get a lot of people that want to be cops or guys that get off by carrying a gun. No thanks. I actually thing it is among the poorest job choices out there for someone looking for a career in law enforcement.

[SecTrainer]

In my humblest of opinions, working armored car security is one of the lowest rungs in the security profession. The responsibility is very high and the danger is fairly high as well. However the pay and benefits are poor.

If I recall correctly armored car couriers do not get overtime until over 60 hours per week since they are under DOT regulations.

I can't believe they get people to do that kind of work for the money they pay. It seems they get a lot of people that want to be cops or guys that get off by carrying a gun. No thanks. I actually thing it is among the poorest job choices out there for someone looking for a career in law enforcement.

I'm grateful we have people who will do this dangerous and vital work, so I'm not inclined to dump on them, and I wasn't particularly struck that they were just people who wanted to carry a gun. If that's what blows your skirt up, you could carry a gun on security jobs that are a lot less dangerous.

Anyway, they're our professional peers and deserve to be treated as such.

[CorpSec]

I'm grateful we have people who will do this dangerous and vital work, so I'm not inclined to dump on them, and I wasn't particularly struck that they were just people who wanted to carry a gun. If that's what blows your skirt up, you could carry a gun on security jobs that are a lot less dangerous.

Anyway, they're our professional peers and deserve to be treated as such.

I wasn't trying to dump on them so to speak. It is just my view that it is a poor area of the industry to be in. I am sure there are excellent armored car guards out there. I am just stating that IMO they don't get enough pay and/or benefits for the work they do.

In this economy I can't fault anyone with a job. However, if someone had a choice and they wanted my opinion, I would tell them to steer clear of armored car work.

It is a vital service and you know what? If people weren't willing to do the work for the peanuts they pay, the work would still need to get done and to get the work done they would have to raise the pay rates and bennies to attact people to the job. It is simple as supply and demand.

[gonzo1510]

In my humblest of opinions, working armored car security is one of the lowest rungs in the security profession. The responsibility is very high and the danger is fairly high as well. However the pay and benefits are poor.

I don't know about that...I've done both armed and unarmed standing guard in safer locations yet I was miserable the whole time.. I've been doing the armored car thing for 11 years and other than putting up some of the "Stupidvisors", I've enjoyed my time there.
Yes, I've lost some friends both on the job...and off, but overall, I don't regret it.

Sure, I know that I will never become a millionaire with this job (that's why I got my own PPO) but I've never not been able to provide for my wife and son, and if they need to see a doctor, I don't have to wait to see one at the free clinic or the ER with 200 other patients that don't have insurance. Most contract security companies don't offer insurance or some of the other benefits we get....and we're not even union !! Some of the other companies around here pay dick and their medical includes mud and a band-aid !

As to the security comment...Here in California, even though we have the guard and gun permits, we don't do any "security" work. We are actually exempt by law from the mandatory training requirements that all security guards need to be able to re-new their permits. Hell, we can even carry concealed while on duty without a CCW.


If I recall correctly armored car couriers do not get overtime until over 60 hours per week since they are under DOT regulations..

Yeah,that's true, actually it's 50 but still true...it sucks,but now that Garda is supposedly getting rid of our current trucks, we will no longer be required to obtain or maintain our commercial drivers license.



I can't believe they get people to do that kind of work for the money they pay. It seems they get a lot of people that want to be cops or guys that get off by carrying a gun..

Why is it so hard to believe ? sure, some guys go on to sucessful careers in law enforcement, and that's great ! Others are here working their way through college while others are in it for the long haul. The way I see it, this is the easiest job ever... I'm out in the field all day making decent money, not stuck behind a desk watching a monitor all day or in a loading dock checking in trucks all day sucking in diesel exhaust all day for minimum wage.



No thanks. I actually think it is among the poorest job choices out there for someone looking for a career in law enforcement.

Again, I disagree, having this in your background shows that you are a mature and responsible person. Think about it, You are being entrusted with all this liability as well as a firearm and the life of your partner. Wouldn't a PD look at this as an asset ? I would think so..

[SecTrainer]

Yeah,that's true, actually it's 50 but still true...it sucks,but now that Garda is supposedly getting rid of our current trucks, we will no longer be required to obtain or maintain our commercial drivers license.

What are they going to use instead, Gonzo? And don't you have to have the CDL regardless if you're driving (anything) "for hire" so to speak?

[gonzo1510]

What are they going to use instead, Gonzo? And don't you have to have the CDL regardless if you're driving (anything) "for hire" so to speak?

We're supposed to be switching over to the Dodge Sprinter Vans.. Dunbar actually has some on the road now. They look intresting. The main reason for the switch is because there's a new state regulation on diesel trucks..I guess they now have to pass a smog test. Instead of retro fitting some of these beasts, Garda figured it best to just dispose of them...lord knows they need to be destroyed.

As for the CDL, most of us would go back to a class c license (regular non comm.)since we would no longer be driving vehicles with airbrakes. the only ones who would retain their CDL's would be the Coin and Vault guys, they have class A's..

[dc5rsx]

Wow so much false information in this thread!!!!!And I jus started workin for armored company and am in middle of training right now....I was told 40+ hours and you get time and half. Since there is so much false info I am guessing overtime varies from state to state....

[mjw064]

Wow so much false information in this thread!!!!!And I jus started workin for armored company and am in middle of training right now....I was told 40+ hours and you get time and half. Since there is so much false info I am guessing overtime varies from state to state....

Well your company could give you time and a half at forty hours. However they are only legally required to after 60. Just like minimum wage is $7.00 an hour, but Loomis might pay you $8.63 an hour.

[doulos Christou]

Wow so much false information in this thread!!!!!And I jus started workin for armored company and am in middle of training right now....I was told 40+ hours and you get time and half. Since there is so much false info I am guessing overtime varies from state to state....

Actually, CorpSec said 60 and Gonzo said 50. That isn't "40+," exactly. You should probably get your facts straight before spouting off about "false information."

[pfalex]

Wow so much false information in this thread!!!!!And I jus started workin for armored company and am in middle of training right now....I was told 40+ hours and you get time and half. Since there is so much false info I am guessing overtime varies from state to state....

False info in the armoured car world is not a bad thing! Keeping inside information about the operations confidential helps to protect the crews.

I spent nine years in armoured car operations, both on the road and in management, including supervision and investigation.

It is a bit of a unique industry... more courier and ABM/ATM technician than security. The pay is generally low and there is a perception of high risk (the frequency is low, but the impact can be very high). You generally get two types of armoured car guys (and girls) - the older guys who are in it for the long haul and the new guys who are, more often than not, thinking it's a good segue into policing.

It was a very rewarding period of my career - working with a lot of good folks, especially working closely with a crew out on the street, and for me there were many opportunities for advancement.

Back to the comments on this thread, here in Toronto we actually had a robbery where the bad guy was dressed as a cop, and unfortunately the driver did open the door and we lost the entire load. The case, from 1995, had lots of drama and resurfaced in the news last year when one of the convicted robbers was found dead (http://www.thestar.com/article/488047).

There were countless other robberies, thefts and incidents that certainly made the job interesting, but I'm sure experiences vary between companies and geographies. Also, in the end, the pay is still poor. It's gotten a bit better over time here, but I remember starting slugging coin in the vault for only $9.80 / hr....