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SFDocBartman
03-29-2009, 02:30 PM
Person Down in Auto/New way to commit suicide:

Recently a new way to commit suicide has been discovered by mixing two chemicals that can be bought over the counter at local stores. They are Bonide – a sulfur spray used as an insecticide for fruit trees and hydrochloric (muriatic) acid. Once mixed, the chemicals produce heat and a flammable, noxious gas that causes the subject to pass out and the heart to stop within minutes. The process appears to be quick and painless. Two recent cases, one in Pasadena, California and the other at Lake Allatoona in Bartow County, Georgia, involved young men in their early 20's. Both were found locked inside their cars with the chemicals. Each left a note on the car warning anyone around of danger. The car at Lake Allatoona had been taped to prevent gas from escaping.

Does this sound like a routine call that most of us would respond to and take similar action?

It's Sunday morning 0730 hours, you respond to a person down in an automobile. You locate a car in the empty parking lot of a business. Rescue crews pull up near the vehicle and personnel see a person inside that appears to be asleep or unconscious. Wearing safety glasses and medical gloves, you walk up to the car and knock on the window.

The patient does not respond to your knock on the window, and the doors are locked. What action will you take? Will you hurry to make patient access? Will you use a lockout tool, center punch, or halligan to make entry?

You make entry into the vehicle, a rush of warm air comes out of the vehicle and you smell a sharp odor. You have just become a victim and have been exposed to a noxious, possibly fatal gas.

What could you have done differently? You are the first-in unit. How should you respond to this type of incident?

1. Do not become complacent! Your response should be similar on every call.
2. Be well trained, know your job, and do your job.
3. Start your size-up from the time a call is dispatched.
4. Establish a strong command and control the scene.
5. Don't go rushing in.
6. Survey the scene.
7. Does the scene look routine?
8. Do you see anything unusual? (Example: A note on the window, containers inside the vehicle and taped windows or vents).
9. Is the scene safe?
10. Are you wearing the appropriate PPE.
11. Establish a Hot Zone.
12. Develop a plan of action and coordinate activities.
13. Call for additional resources. (Hazmat Team, PD, etc.)
14. Did PD arrive prior to FD and become contaminated requiring emergency decontamination and first aid?

The call listed in the first paragraph of this document started as a routine person down call. This type of incident can easily expand into a full blown Hazardous Materials Incident with a multijurisdictional response. Be aware of this new way to commit suicide and don't become a victim. Use common sense and stay safe.

To review a newspaper article and pictures regarding the suicide in Pasadena, California, visit:
http://beaconmedianews.com/2008/08/26/23-year-old-man-commits-suicide-with-chemicals-inside-2003-vw-bug/

Bill Warnock
03-29-2009, 03:54 PM
Bart, the link to Barton Georgia does not work. I tried the newspaper's website to no avail.
Enjoy the day,
Bill

SFDocBartman
03-29-2009, 11:16 PM
Bart, the link to Barton Georgia does not work. I tried the newspaper's website to no avail.
Enjoy the day,
Bill

Thanks Bill - I just tried it through a search - and it requires $2.95 for the article - definitely not worth it....
took that part out.

Appreciate the heads up.

5423
03-30-2009, 01:04 PM
Good heads-up, though, Doc; one to file (in the mind) with all the other silly things that people do to themselves...

Here in mining country, the favorite self-poisoning method (other than drugs and alcohol, of course) seems to be sodium cyanide; readily available at the mills, cyanide-processing plants, etc. And again, the problem is contamination at scene...

Bottom line: first priority at a rescue scene (particularly "Unknown Type Rescue") is SCENE SAFETY. Back in The Day, on a heavy rescue-ambulance crew, my officer used to give a standardized speal during each response: "OK guys; everybody just SLOW DOWN. Get your heads out of your a$$es and LOOK AROUND!".

I can't really sum it up any better than that! :rolleyes: