Shady Security in Hawaii. Do they need to be licensed?

[juking]

I live in a large condo in Waikiki. The security guards and manager do not wear name tags or uniforms, and it's difficult to know who they even are- the turn over is often. I do know that the on site property management company is a large company with dozens of properties. Does anyone have a link or information regarding licensing of security guards in Hawaii (if any). I don't believe that it's regulated like it is in Florida. For all I know, these shady security characters could have a criminal record. Any information would be helpful.

[Lawson]

There appears to be some type of licensing for Private Detective/Security Guards in Hawaii, but I'm having trouble finding the information about their licensing requirements.

However...

In most states security is handled two different ways. Contract Security Guards (People that work for a 3rd party such as Wackenhut, Securitas, Joe's Security Guard Inc., etc...) usually have to meet the licensing requirements of that state. Guards that work directly for the guarded business (Proprietary Guards), such as an Employee of Wal-mart hired as a Security Officer by Wal-mart to work at Wal-mart and has their paycheck signed by Wal-mart, tend to not have to meet any requirements except for what the specific employer requires. So if your residence has proprietary guards there may be a possibility there is no licensing for them and the property management can hire whomever they please.

[juking]

This property management company treats the tenants (who rent from private owners) like children. They post notices in elevators and common areas with these types of warnings: 'Someone in this building is tagging grafitti and when you are caught, you and whoever you are staying with will be evicted.' Strange, because the building is unsecured. Anyone can enter!
Here's another example: 'Someone left boxes on this floor. If these boxes are not gone by noon, the entire floor will recieve violations.'
This manager seems to me to be inexperienced. She allows her security to hang out at all areas, all night long- some friends of security drink on property. I'm wondering what agency to take this to, or is there anything that I can do to keep the security noise level down?

[tanko]

Are you prepared to be evicted? If not, then I wouldn't press this issue. If you're prepared, go all out on complaints. If you're qualified and certified, then you might want to suggest that the company outsource the security to you and your startup security company.

I'm currently dealing with a couple next door who fight, physically and verbally, quite frequently next to my apartment. One of the ladies I spoke with at the property management company tried to suggest that, "I might not like the end result," of what I was doing. The way it was implied was a subtle threat. I made sure that she, her boss, and the owners of the company not threaten me. I also passed word along at work, and about twenty plus employees who rent from this property management company called in to make sure they were choosing a reliable company and why they shouldn't take their business somewhere else. I sure love where I work, and the free market :)

[juking]

Are you prepared to be evicted? If not, then I wouldn't press this issue. If you're prepared, go all out on complaints. If you're qualified and certified, then you might want to suggest that the company outsource the security to you and your startup security company.
Start my own company?

I'm currently dealing with a couple next door who fight, physically and verbally, quite frequently next to my apartment. One of the ladies I spoke with at the property management company tried to suggest that, "I might not like the end result," of what I was doing. The way it was implied was a subtle threat.How are you are 'dealing' with them?
I made sure that she, her boss, and the owners of the company not threaten me. I also passed word along at work, and about twenty plus employees who rent from this property management company called in to make sure they were choosing a reliable company and why they shouldn't take their business somewhere else. I sure love where I work, and the free market :)This company in my case is a huge company. They own approximately half of the units in this building (fee simple). The other half leases the unit from the property management company (30 yr leasehold). The lessee rents their unit to someone like me. There are numerous other complaints that I have here. For instance, the building covers an entire city block. There are two entrances on opposite sides. The entrance closest to my unit is locked after 9pm. There are no keys available to tenants (since this company took over, they took the keys). You have two choices- one is to walk approximately three city blocks to the front entrance, or walk down to the parking garage and up a steep stairwell to the lobby to enter without a key. This has to be against the wheelchair/handicap laws here.

[tanko]

If you're going to say something to the effect of, "Hey, your security staff are worthless," then you might want to say, "I can provide better officers and possibly save you some money." Or you can say, "I guarantee you that if I was a supervisor or manager, problems will decrease and the level of professionalism among the security officers will increase." You need to provide a solution to the problem. Just a suggestion. Another thing you should do is go to every neighbor and try to do a neighborhood watch program.

How am I'm dealing with the couple next door? Well I'm getting to know all the local officers, and I'm becoming a reserve officer for starters. I'm pretty much to the point where I send text messages whenever there is a problem to the officers on duty, and they respond because there isn't anything to do and they want this to stop. The officers around here like the idea that every crime needs to be persued to it's fullest, no matter how little it is in order to prevent the bigger crimes.

For instance, drugs was a problem in my town but it was persued agressively. For instance curfew violations and noise complaints were enforced. Usually those little things, at least in my towns case, allowed the officers to investigate which led to bigger crimes such as possession of meth.

[PPOinCA]

Heres the link to Hawaii's Dept of Consumer Affairs website about Private Detective and Security Guards, http://hawaii.gov/dcca/pvl/boards/private/

Hope you find it usefull.

[N. A. Corbier]

Wait, this is a sublessor you're renting from?

[Curtis Baillie]

Wait, this is a sublessor you're renting from?
Nate, I doubt you will get a response. The last post by the OP is a year old.:) I see you're no longer "Walking in "Memphis". Have you given up your gig on the high seas?

[N. A. Corbier]

Technically, I need to update that to Dahl Headlands, Pandora, which is where I currently am. Yep, I've gone to putting my location as whatever video game I'm playing.

I gave that up in May, because the company that contracted me was run like a small security company. Numerous violations, lying to their client, lying to me, using over $300,000 dollars in counterfit operating systems and software on their laptops, failure to pay on time... Basically, I understand now why they hire retirees.

[doulos Christou]

Heres the link to Hawaii's Dept of Consumer Affairs website about Private Detective and Security Guards, http://hawaii.gov/dcca/pvl/boards/private/

Hope you find it usefull.

Remember when someone, I think jtw, said "read more, post less"? This thread is nearly a year old with no activity from the OP in a while. Let it die :rolleyes:

[Curtis Baillie]

Maybe someone like me found the information useful.

[PPOinCA]

Thanks for the back up there Curtis.

DC, I thought since maybe I stumbled upon this article by searching Hawaii (because I used to live there) that I might lend some useful information to anyone who stumbles upon this site and might find the information, useful.

Thanks, and now Ill let it die.