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1stWatch
03-29-2006, 10:12 PM
Brocktown, Nevada:
Horace Williams, 37, a security officer at a local grocery store, was stabbed while trying to apprehend two shoplifting suspects and was hospitalized. The suspects fled in a vehicle that was found abandoned with Williams's blood in it and are at large.

http://www.localnewsleader.com/brocktown/index.php?action=fullnews&id=142
Mr. Security
03-29-2006, 10:32 PM
Was it worth it? What's the most valuable item in a grocery store worth? I say observe and report unless you are trained and equipped to handle such situations properly.

I will not die trying to protect merchandise. It can be replaced. I can't (I don't mean as a guard :D).
1stWatch
03-29-2006, 10:37 PM
If that was in the description of the job, then that was an occupational hazard. Whether he was trained well or equipped well, it doesn't say. I've known people who got hurt on the job no matter how well prepared they were.
Mr. Security
03-29-2006, 10:48 PM
Anyone can get hurt on the job. The question is: Is it worth the risk?
1stWatch
03-29-2006, 10:51 PM
Anyone can get hurt on the job. The question is: Is it worth the risk?

I suppose that question can only be answered correctly by the person who agrees to take on the job and understands the risks as well.
N. A. Corbier
03-29-2006, 11:01 PM
Was it worth it? What's the most valuable item in a grocery store worth? I say observe and report unless you are trained and equipped to handle such situations properly.

I will not die trying to protect merchandise. It can be replaced. I can't (I don't mean as a guard :D).

Most grocery stores do not hire uniformed persons to "observe and report." They are there for either robbery prevention or loss prevention duties, traditionally to apprehend shoplifters.

A store clerk can observe and report, which is why you don't see security that much in grocery stores. They expect the security officer to protect them from robbery and make shoplifting arrests.
1stWatch
03-29-2006, 11:05 PM
It is also common for companies who employ such guards to make them buy all their own gear and duty weapons. It is possible he did not even have a vest on simply because he couldn't afford one.
Mr. Security
03-30-2006, 10:37 AM
I suppose that question can only be answered correctly by the person who agrees to take on the job and understands the risks as well.

And, just to add to that, has actually been hurt trying to do it. That's the acid test.
N. A. Corbier
03-30-2006, 01:29 PM
It is also common for companies who employ such guards to make them buy all their own gear and duty weapons. It is possible he did not even have a vest on simply because he couldn't afford one.

Isn't it, though? Scary concept. We'll provide you with a uniform, you buy everything else yourself.
Mr. Security
03-30-2006, 04:39 PM
Isn't it, though? Scary concept. We'll provide you with a uniform, you buy everything else yourself.

And by the way, we pay 9.00/hr. :(
GCMC Security
03-30-2006, 04:43 PM
And by the way, we pay 9.00/hr. :(

Where do I sign up???

Seriously thought, 9.00 an hour is considered good around here. :mad:
Mr. Security
03-30-2006, 04:48 PM
Where do I sign up???

Seriously thought, 9.00 an hour is considered good around here. :mad:

That's sad. :(
Lawson
03-30-2006, 06:53 PM
Same around here too..

Unless you are working a Military base or some sort of GSA account, most security makes between 7.50- 9.00 an hour. I currently make 9.75 an hour, but am going up to 11.50 soon. Not great... but I dont ask for a lot. Plus, I have medical, dental, vision, life, and I got something in the mail saying my 401K is up and going.. but I dont know anything about retirement yet.
GCMC Security
03-30-2006, 06:56 PM
Same around here too..

Unless you are working a Military base or some sort of GSA account, most security makes between 7.50- 9.00 an hour. I currently make 9.75 an hour, but am going up to 11.50 soon. Not great... but I dont ask for a lot. Plus, I have medical, dental, vision, life, and I got something in the mail saying my 401K is up and going.. but I dont know anything about retirement yet.

If it's the same 401k we have out of our office it kinda sucks because there is no company match, when I put on my bars I started looking at it more. I think I've pretty much decided to go with someone else and set up a retirement fund.
1stWatch
03-30-2006, 08:59 PM
Seriously thought, 9.00 an hour is considered good around here. :mad:

It is here as well, as long as you get to work 60+ hours per week with time and a half pay after 40 hours.
GCMC Security
03-30-2006, 09:54 PM
It is here as well, as long as you get to work 60+ hours per week with time and a half pay after 40 hours.

The bad part with TWC at least around here, as a supervisor I only make my rate for 40 hours anything over that I get paid regular CPO rate at time and half.
N. A. Corbier
03-30-2006, 10:04 PM
If it's the same 401k we have out of our office it kinda sucks because there is no company match, when I put on my bars I started looking at it more. I think I've pretty much decided to go with someone else and set up a retirement fund.

Unless your 401k or stock option plan has a employer match, I'd suggest looking somewhere else. The only thing your 401k is giving you is convience - its being auto-deducted from your payroll. You'll get a better investment through someone else.

Used to play the stock market. It saved my ass awhile back.
GCMC Security
03-30-2006, 10:40 PM
Unless your 401k or stock option plan has a employer match, I'd suggest looking somewhere else. The only thing your 401k is giving you is convience - its being auto-deducted from your payroll. You'll get a better investment through someone else.

Used to play the stock market. It saved my ass awhile back.

Yeah that's what I'm figuring, course I'm stupid when it comes to the stock market but I'm thinking IRAs or soemthing
N. A. Corbier
03-30-2006, 10:55 PM
Yeah that's what I'm figuring, course I'm stupid when it comes to the stock market but I'm thinking IRAs or soemthing

Notice I said "play" the stock market. Unless your investing in a portfolio with a broker, I'd stick to investment accounts. I am by no means an expert in stocks, I just invested in some big names when they had a low buy (Wal-Mart, actually), and after the stock split twice and there was a high period, I sold.
Mr. Security
04-01-2006, 09:22 AM
Notice I said "play" the stock market. Unless your investing in a portfolio with a broker, I'd stick to investment accounts. I am by no means an expert in stocks, I just invested in some big names when they had a low buy (Wal-Mart, actually), and after the stock split twice and there was a high period, I sold.

Me to. The heydays for playing the stock market were 1995 to 1998. I remember buying KO and flipping it a week later for a 1500.00 gain. Not anymore. :(