Target Video

[LPCap]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfvNElz0RHY

amateurs.

What do you think of their tactics which involve sprinting through the store after people? And they couldn't get that guy on the ground...

[NRM_Oz]

Try cake decorating as a new career.

Seriously, this is from watching too many episodes of COPS. I like how the skinny bloke is just lifted up and carried back into the store. Just curious as to why there is often no-one outside waiting for them to come through the barriers ?

Nice clear footage and it brings back memories of a woman who was on her knees pleading to do anything not for us to call the cops (she had over $800 US in fragrances) and I mean ANYTHING .............. but then we found out why, overstayed on her visa, working illegally and other thefts under a false name. A $20.00 cable will hold the monitor to the wall or a simple perspex screen would assist too.

[LPAjh9558]

Good video + could be a learning tool as well. I especially liked the parts where the girl kept knocking the computer monitor of the desk and where the 2 males were slicing open cd packages......How many times have we seen that before!

[darkenna]

Very well put together... and it does spotlight some of the more, ah, interesting, moments we have in the field. :D

I do have a small issue with the fact that they weren't even trying to talk the subjects back in; but then, my company has some stores where "just pick 'em up and carry 'em back" is the running SOP too, due to the area.

As for not getting the guy down... I had a 40-yr-old out-of-shape female fight myself and two of my LPOs for a full minute last week before we got her down and cuffed. Adrenaline does amazing things to the human body.

[souperdave]

Good video + could be a learning tool as well......

Learning tool? The "textbook" title will be, "How To Get In the Fastlane to Unemployment by Posting on 'YouTube"!

:rolleyes:

[HotelSecurity]

Learning tool? The "textbook" title will be, "How To Get In the Fastlane to Unemployment by Posting on 'YouTube"!

:rolleyes:

Can't some of the "suspects" sue?

[LPGuy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfvNElz0RHY

amateurs.

What do you think of their tactics which involve sprinting through the store after people? And they couldn't get that guy on the ground...

I didn't see anyone sprinting through the store. I saw officers coming out of the AP office camera room to get out the door and stop people before they escaped.

As far as not "talking them back in"? Everyone's got their own style, but I suggest the "ask, tell, make" model. You get a chance to walk in on your own before I take a hold of you and bring you back in. It's an officer safety issue. People that argue and resist are stalling for time so they can think of a way to escape, get their buddies there, hurt you long enough to escape, or remove a weapon and kill you. It's the same in police work. Once we have a reason to detain or arrest someone, we don't talk them into handcuffs, we put them into handcuffs before they can think of a way to make the scene more dangerous for everyone involved.

[LPCap]

I didn't see anyone sprinting through the store. I saw officers coming out of the AP office camera room to get out the door and stop people before they escaped.

Than you and I must not have been watching the same video. I clearly saw several instances of these guys sprinting (and almost running people over) to get out the door.

Target generally has one entrance/exit, so you know where they are going to go, just stand out front.

No wonder Target is going away from the APS position.

[rmd08]

Learning tool? The "textbook" title will be, "How To Get In the Fastlane to Unemployment by Posting on 'YouTube"!

:rolleyes:

They probably left the company. A lot of people do that when they leave, post the highlight videos.

[Don of the Dead]

Than you and I must not have been watching the same video. I clearly saw several instances of these guys sprinting (and almost running people over) to get out the door.

Target generally has one entrance/exit, so you know where they are going to go, just stand out front.
.


EVERY Target I know of has 2 sets of doors. Not to mention the Emergancy exits they so often love to use.

I watched the video, the only things I would have done diffrent is the moment the Bald black dude began to fight in the office it would have been "teeth to tar and handcuffs. They had 3-4 people in there and should have been easily able to drop him and cuff him.
Also, if you have more than 1 guy on, the moment you have concealement, one guy posts up outside witha radio/cell phone, you stop them in the vestibule. Less chance of running, more things to bounce them off if they fight.

Otherwise, rest of the video is awesome..

[LPGuy]

Than you and I must not have been watching the same video. I clearly saw several instances of these guys sprinting (and almost running people over) to get out the door.

You say sprinting "through the store" as if they crossed 17 aisles, through cosmetics, linens, and cold foods to get to the door. In reality, they came out of the office right to the door, which (knowing the layout of Target stores) is not very far. Irregardless of the distance, what's the problem? It's unprofessional to run now?

I'll bet that in most cases they did have an officer waiting outside. The guy running is trying to make sure that his partner isn't facing a suspect(s) alone for any longer than he has to. I can respect that.

[LPGuy]

Otherwise, rest of the video is awesome..

Yeah, reminds me of how fun LP was at times... :)

[Don of the Dead]

Yeah, reminds me of how fun LP was at times... :)


Made me excited to go to work tonight!

[LPCap]

You say sprinting "through the store" as if they crossed 17 aisles, through cosmetics, linens, and cold foods to get to the door. In reality, they came out of the office right to the door, which (knowing the layout of Target stores) is not very far. Irregardless of the distance, what's the problem? It's unprofessional to run now?

I'll bet that in most cases they did have an officer waiting outside. The guy running is trying to make sure that his partner isn't facing a suspect(s) alone for any longer than he has to. I can respect that.

I will break it down for you since apparently you cannot see.

The first segment with the push out. At approximately 54 seconds the guy leaves. The AP office door opens and suddenly a plainclothes guy comes barreling out from BEHIND THE CAMERA SHOT. A uniform comes shortly out of the office. Why not have the plainclothes waiting outside? Hmm..

At 1:15 the plainclothes bear hugs some dude and carries him back, not the best approach. At 3:13, the uniform barrels out of the office and almost runs over employees and the EAS.

Why do you defend this crazy stuff? People could have been hurt because of Target AP's stupidity.

Most of the videos they did not have someone waiting outside - maybe you need to slow the tape down so you can actually see what is going on. Were you just jamming out to the music?

Oh I forgot - yes it is unprofessional to run through a place of business, especially one where you work. (PS the problem is hauling ass through the store can cause major accidents and lawsuits when you trample a small kid...)

[LPGuy]

Why do you defend this crazy stuff? People could have been hurt because of Target AP's stupidity.

Because you're making elitist accusations against actions of which you've seen a portion of a seconds-long video clip. No one here knows what other elements may have created the situations that were shown in the video. I'm sure if someone filmed you doing your job and pulled select clips out to show other people we'd find some curious things as well.

Seriously, I don't critique other people's work with so little information. Apparently you think you it's worth your time to do so. To each his own.

And besides, it doesn't seem like a earth-shaking controversy anyways. Walk? Run? Move at a shuffle somewhere in between to catch the bad guy? I don't really care one way or another. If you can safely and effectively get the job done, then by all means do so. Sometimes that means acting in ways that other people, especially ones watching a seconds-long video clip on Youtube, don't understand or appreciate.

[LPGuy]

Why not have the plainclothes waiting outside? Hmm..

Uh, okay? You work LP, yet you can't answer this? Two words:

Continuous surveillance.

[LPCap]

Uh, okay? You work LP, yet you can't answer this? Two words:

Continuous surveillance.

I don't work LP anymore. But when I did, I had someone on the camera maintaining surveillance with someone waiting outside. To regular people, this is not rocket science, I guess that is the reason you became a cop, basic LP concepts were a little difficult.

This video is a conversation piece and I can criticize what I want to all day long. Look at the ruger video I posted - people criticized left and right and apparently you have no problem with that.

Plain and simple, you like certain things and when people **** up, you get up in arms. I am passionate about LP and when people **** up and make "us" look bad I am not afraid to speak out.

I am glad I am out of LP so I don't have to deal with ignorant LP/Cops.

[LPCap]

Seriously, I don't critique other people's work with so little information. Apparently you think you it's worth your time to do so. To each his own.


HAHA....just go back and read some of your posts LPGuy...

[Don of the Dead]

Once again, I saw no real problem with any of the stops. Shoplifters got caught, merchandise recovered. LP 1, Bad Guys 0

[LPGuy]

I don't work LP anymore. But when I did, I had someone on the camera maintaining surveillance with someone waiting outside. To regular people, this is not rocket science, I guess that is the reason you became a cop, basic LP concepts were a little difficult.

I see that this is becoming personal for you. Hopefully your creative little insults helped boost your faltering self esteem here on this message board.


This video is a conversation piece and I can criticize what I want to all day long. Look at the ruger video I posted - people criticized left and right and apparently you have no problem with that.

I already granted that you can criticize all you like. Having worked LP before, I know that there are many elements to an apprehension that a video tape doesn't capture; vice versa, there are many elements to police work that a patrol car dashboard camera doesn't capture, yet citizens love to critique them to death. Either way, I think it's foolish to do so without a clear idea of what actually occurred.


I am glad I am out of LP so I don't have to deal with ignorant LP/Cops

"Oh, woe is me... I'm just too darn intelligent for my own good." :rolleyes: Please, ratchet down the sense of self importance a notch or two.

I'm done with this conversation.

[mjw064]

wow this stuff is crazy. clearly, if target wants to use those types of physical tactics to apprehend shoplifters (which i am cool with), they need to provide their employees with some training. i saw numerous examples where employees (including regular red shirt name tag wearing folks) could have been sucker punched or worse, had the bad guy wanted to. also they are horrible at getting people under control, i think mostly because no one has ever trained them in pressure point control tactics. also that bear hug i saw soooo many times is stupid and bad, bad and more bad.

but wow. i dont run after people like that in my police job.

[LPCap]

LPguy watch this video and comment.

http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1207970928/How_a_Desperate_Shoplifter_Successfully_Gets_Away


The LP guy sprinting after this lifter had nothing to do with the innocent shopper getting hit? I guess we can't tell since we only see a few seconds worth of video. You know, sometimes LP has to do what LP has to do to get the lifter. Who cares about that bystander who just got hit and will probably get a substantial amount of cash.

That LP guy was on the ball I tell ya...

[Don of the Dead]

LPguy watch this video and comment.

http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1207970928/How_a_Desperate_Shoplifter_Successfully_Gets_Away


The LP guy sprinting after this lifter had nothing to do with the innocent shopper getting hit? I guess we can't tell since we only see a few seconds worth of video. You know, sometimes LP has to do what LP has to do to get the lifter. Who cares about that bystander who just got hit and will probably get a substantial amount of cash.

That LP guy was on the ball I tell ya...

How is that the LP'S fault? The shoplifter, in trying to get away ran over the shopper. Sad? yes, but don't blame the LP, blame the piece of **** driving.

[LPGuy]

LPguy watch this video and comment.

http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1207970928/How_a_Desperate_Shoplifter_Successfully_Gets_Away


The LP guy sprinting after this lifter had nothing to do with the innocent shopper getting hit? I guess we can't tell since we only see a few seconds worth of video. You know, sometimes LP has to do what LP has to do to get the lifter. Who cares about that bystander who just got hit and will probably get a substantial amount of cash.

That LP guy was on the ball I tell ya...

I've told you that I'm done with this debate. That's some interesting bait that you tossed out there, but I won't be taking it.

Start a new thread if you want to discuss a completely new topic.

[LPCap]

I've told you that I'm done with this debate. That's some interesting bait that you tossed out there, but I won't be taking it.

It's because you know you are wrong on this issue. I have proven to you that under no circumstances whatsoever should you engage in the conduct shown in these videos - ever.

You are the reason companies create restrictive, blanket policies for their associates.

[Don of the Dead]

It's because you know you are wrong on this issue. I have proven to you that under no circumstances whatsoever should you engage in the conduct shown in these videos - ever.

You are the reason companies create restrictive, blanket policies for their associates.

No, you're picking a fight, considering you just posted ANOTHER thread with videos you deem "wrong".

Fine, we get it, you are the grand master end all be all of Loss Prevention, we bow before your greatness. We're building the shrine as fast as we can.

But while your waiting, I've done this 12 years, we chase, we handcuff, we fight, you know how many times in 12 years we had a problem? ZERO, how many complaints have i had? ZERO. How many times have I had to go to court for a shoplifter? ONCE (since he was on his last strike.)
But by YOUR standards I should have killed at LEAST 10-15 innocent bystanders by now! I should have been sued for MILLIONS of dollars and had companies I've worked for shut down! I must be extremely lucky huh?

Or maybe I'm damn good at what I do and even though i do all thees things "wrong" I'm smart about them, i know when to call off a chase or not fight or to let it go.

As I said before, you must be a hoot to work with :)

[LPCap]

No, you're picking a fight, considering you just posted ANOTHER thread with videos you deem "wrong".

Fine, we get it, you are the grand master end all be all of Loss Prevention, we bow before your greatness. We're building the shrine as fast as we can.

But while your waiting, I've done this 12 years, we chase, we handcuff, we fight, you know how many times in 12 years we had a problem? ZERO, how many complaints have i had? ZERO. How many times have I had to go to court for a shoplifter? ONCE (since he was on his last strike.)
But by YOUR standards I should have killed at LEAST 10-15 innocent bystanders by now! I should have been sued for MILLIONS of dollars and had companies I've worked for shut down! I must be extremely lucky huh?

Or maybe I'm damn good at what I do and even though i do all thees things "wrong" I'm smart about them, i know when to call off a chase or not fight or to let it go.

As I said before, you must be a hoot to work with :)

bull****.

Lpguy said start another thread to discuss another topic so I did.

If chasing people, pepper spraying people, slamming people to the ground, sprinting through parkings lots were safe/good for the company and the best way to do LP, don't you think every single retail company would be doing those things?

The best way to run an LP department is where the department reduces liability for the company. Just because you haven't run into anything in your 12 years, doesn't mean everyone is as smart as you. Retail LP hire whoever fills out an application - it is not that hard to get a job in the LP department.

If you have caught an average of 100 people a year (by yourself and I am being generous) you have caught 1200 people over your career. That is a small fraction of the number of shoplifters caught in the US over that time period. Don't be naive man.

[Don of the Dead]

Maybe it wasn't hard for YOU to get a job in LP (I'm guessing they skipped the personality test with you), but where I work you're hired by being reccomended.

read: you have to be good at what you do to work at my company.

Now you go back to your namby pamby "Golly Mr. Shoplifter it would be awful nice if you could come back inside with me and possibly give back the stolen stuff you got! Pretty Please? We can hold hands and skip and sing songs on the way back to the office!" Fantasy world you live in and spare the rest of us your opinion.

Because remember, opinions are like a$$holes. And your opinion? Stinks.

[liteyouup]

EVERY Target I know of has 2 sets of doors. Not to mention the Emergancy exits they so often love to use.

I watched the video, the only things I would have done diffrent is the moment the Bald black dude began to fight in the office it would have been "teeth to tar and handcuffs. They had 3-4 people in there and should have been easily able to drop him and cuff him.
Also, if you have more than 1 guy on, the moment you have concealement, one guy posts up outside witha radio/cell phone, you stop them in the vestibule. Less chance of running, more things to bounce them off if they fight.

Otherwise, rest of the video is awesome..
Agreed. You only need one guy in the Camera room, they had at least 3 people the whole time.

[LPCap]

Maybe it wasn't hard for YOU to get a job in LP (I'm guessing they skipped the personality test with you), but where I work you're hired by being reccomended.

read: you have to be good at what you do to work at my company.

Now you go back to your namby pamby "Golly Mr. Shoplifter it would be awful nice if you could come back inside with me and possibly give back the stolen stuff you got! Pretty Please? We can hold hands and skip and sing songs on the way back to the office!" Fantasy world you live in and spare the rest of us your opinion.

Because remember, opinions are like a$$holes. And your opinion? Stinks.


What you are describing is not the norm, for any company in either security/LP. People in retail LP do not stick around long. You sound like a fool when you say that every person in your company is personally recommended and the cream of the crop as far as security guards go. (Think about it, you are a security guard)

The way you go about apprehending shoplifters is few and far between as well. Your company is one of the last few that allows pepper spray and hands on/pursuits. The reason? Idiots like you think they are John Wayne and go overboard.

You are either incredibly stupid or just naive since you have worked 12 years for the same company in the same place without experiencing other LP work.

I can also tell you, I would rather walk away from a 20 yr old kid who stole a shirt than get in an altercation and potentially get hurt/cause damage to others. If you want to start a thread with "That poster LPCap is a wussy" by all means do it, but I know that I will not only still have my job at the end of the day, but I will do a whole lot more with my life than spending 12 years being a wanna be who never was.

Go back to myspace with the rest of the kids.

[Curtis Baillie]

Remarks like "incredibly stupid" "If you want to start a thread with "That poster LPCap is a wussy" by all means do it" and "Go back to myspace with the rest of the kids" are not what this forum is about.

To all posters - please refrain from name calling, and goading others into posting negative comments about others. This site is held to a higher standard of decorum that some other sites.

[LPCap]

heh whatever, this site is just like all the others.

Its cool to talk **** if your name is don of the dead or lpguy - maybe I should change mine to fit.

btw - I am not posting from a work computer so people please don't call Starbucks tell them I am posting derogatory responses using their bandwidth.

[Curtis Baillie]

heh whatever, this site is just like all the others.

Its cool to talk **** if your name is don of the dead or lpguy - maybe I should change mine to fit.

btw - I am not posting from a work computer so people please don't call Starbucks tell them I am posting derogatory responses using their bandwidth.
Uncalled for.

[LPGuy]

(Think about it, you are a security guard)

Idiots like you think they are John Wayne and go overboard.

You are either incredibly stupid or just naive since you have worked 12 years for the same company in the same place without experiencing other LP work.

[. . .] I will do a whole lot more with my life than spending 12 years being a wanna be who never was.

Go back to myspace with the rest of the kids.

I suspected it all along, but thanks for confirming it. LPCap is a forum troll who is only here to antagonize people who are just "security guards." His use and context of the term is clearly meant to be an insult to the security professionals here. The rest of his above-written comments (referring to "wanna bes," etc.) speak for themselves.

LPCap's "contributions" to this forum are posting links to videos and asking "Comments?" Then when people respond in a manner that he doesn't agree with, he insults them without actually debating the situation in question. He has already stated that he no longer works in loss prevention, which is clearly a boon for the industry.

To the moderators: Can we work on removing him from the forums? I think it's pretty clear that he's not adding anything by his presence here and just trolling for arguments to get into.

[Bill Warnock]

Curt, if you can please send him packing. He shouldn't be here!
Bill

[davis002]

Curt, if you can please send him packing. He shouldn't be here!
Bill

I second that

[N. A. Corbier]

Did you know?
Any moderator can issue violations in any forum.

Continued ignoring of the moderator's request for some common decency will result in Red Hammer of Savings day.

[Lynch Mob]

This site is held to a higher standard of decorum that some other sites.

"He's a TPS, his job is uniformed deterrence. He's basically a uniformed Wal-Mart exit greeter."

"We have a policy that says we cannot pursue someone off client property...Have I ever violated this policy? I'm not telling. "

"much like how i have "kept under observation" a car that was refusing to stop, once the Watch Commander ordered a chase stopped."

"We don't chase cars. We simply accelerate briefly to observe the vehicle's tag."

"Hi! Welcome to Target Security! Please palce your balls in this briefcase, they will be returned to you upon quitting/termination! Now, get out there and get laughed at by some shoplifters!"

"I've turned down job offers for more money simply due to the fact it was a "hands off" company...Why bother having security if you won't let them do what is nessesary to stop shoplifter?"

"This shop sounds like a real... dump... and as someone else said, trade the guard uniform for a greeter's vest."

"Try cake decorating as a new career."

"I do have a small issue with the fact that they weren't even trying to talk the subjects back in; but then, my company has some stores where "just pick 'em up and carry 'em back" is the running SOP too, due to the area."

"I watched the video, the only things I would have done diffrent is the moment the Bald black dude began to fight in the office it would have been "teeth to tar and handcuffs."

"Less chance of running, more things to bounce them off if they fight."

"(The fighting videos) Yeah, reminds me of how fun LP was at times... "

"(The fighting videos) Made me excited to go to work tonight!"

"Because you're making elitist accusations against actions of which you've seen a portion of a seconds-long video clip."

"Once again, I saw no real problem with any of the stops. Shoplifters got caught, merchandise recovered. LP 1, Bad Guys 0"

"clearly, if target wants to use those types of physical tactics to apprehend shoplifters (which i am cool with), they need to provide their employees with some training."

"Now you go back to your namby pamby "Golly Mr. Shoplifter it would be awful nice if you could come back inside with me and possibly give back the stolen stuff you got! Pretty Please? We can hold hands and skip and sing songs on the way back to the office!" Fantasy world you live in and spare the rest of us your opinion."

"Love the wall of shame DOD. We used to have one of those when I was on the street level narc unit...They make for some good conversation pieces on dull days."

"Cluttered, disorganized, sh*t everywhere, whatever you wanna call it, or as previously referred to "a pet peeve", is sometimes roundly seen as a fault."

"We got a great one 2 days ago, had a guy smoking pot in the store, he stole beer, drank it in the bathroom, then tried to fight us, got pepper sprayed, so the pic is him, red faced, drooling and big gobs of snot coming out of each nostril."

And these are all from just the last few days. Higher standard of decorum? You have got to be kidding me.

The reason I rarely post here is because the standard of decorum is incredibly low. Only RLPX compares to this site in appealing to the lowest common denominator.

[darkenna]

Makes me wish I was a moderator. :p

I third the motion. As an LP professional, I've found some of his recent comments about the field to be insulting to what we do. As a Security Industry professional, I am appalled by his recent statements on this forum. They have been uncalled for and uncouth. Moderators, please respond with all due haste.

[gcmc security part 2]

I say flog him!

[darkenna]

I say flog him!

Indeed! And flog him as well. :cool:

[Curtis Baillie]

"He's a TPS, his job is uniformed deterrence. He's basically a uniformed Wal-Mart exit greeter."

"We have a policy that says we cannot pursue someone off client property...Have I ever violated this policy? I'm not telling. "

"much like how i have "kept under observation" a car that was refusing to stop, once the Watch Commander ordered a chase stopped."

"We don't chase cars. We simply accelerate briefly to observe the vehicle's tag."

"Hi! Welcome to Target Security! Please palce your balls in this briefcase, they will be returned to you upon quitting/termination! Now, get out there and get laughed at by some shoplifters!"

"I've turned down job offers for more money simply due to the fact it was a "hands off" company...Why bother having security if you won't let them do what is nessesary to stop shoplifter?"

"This shop sounds like a real... dump... and as someone else said, trade the guard uniform for a greeter's vest."

"Try cake decorating as a new career."

"I do have a small issue with the fact that they weren't even trying to talk the subjects back in; but then, my company has some stores where "just pick 'em up and carry 'em back" is the running SOP too, due to the area."

"I watched the video, the only things I would have done diffrent is the moment the Bald black dude began to fight in the office it would have been "teeth to tar and handcuffs."

"Less chance of running, more things to bounce them off if they fight."

"(The fighting videos) Yeah, reminds me of how fun LP was at times... "

"(The fighting videos) Made me excited to go to work tonight!"

"Because you're making elitist accusations against actions of which you've seen a portion of a seconds-long video clip."

"Once again, I saw no real problem with any of the stops. Shoplifters got caught, merchandise recovered. LP 1, Bad Guys 0"

"clearly, if target wants to use those types of physical tactics to apprehend shoplifters (which i am cool with), they need to provide their employees with some training."

"Now you go back to your namby pamby "Golly Mr. Shoplifter it would be awful nice if you could come back inside with me and possibly give back the stolen stuff you got! Pretty Please? We can hold hands and skip and sing songs on the way back to the office!" Fantasy world you live in and spare the rest of us your opinion."

"Love the wall of shame DOD. We used to have one of those when I was on the street level narc unit...They make for some good conversation pieces on dull days."

"Cluttered, disorganized, sh*t everywhere, whatever you wanna call it, or as previously referred to "a pet peeve", is sometimes roundly seen as a fault."

"We got a great one 2 days ago, had a guy smoking pot in the store, he stole beer, drank it in the bathroom, then tried to fight us, got pepper sprayed, so the pic is him, red faced, drooling and big gobs of snot coming out of each nostril."

And these are all from just the last few days. Higher standard of decorum? You have got to be kidding me.

The reason I rarely post here is because the standard of decorum is incredibly low. Only RLPX compares to this site in appealing to the lowest common denominator.You forgot to add some gems of your own.

[Curtis Baillie]

Did you know?
Any moderator can issue violations in any forum.

Continued ignoring of the moderator's request for some common decency will result in Red Hammer of Savings day.I'm hoping my request will be heeded. If not I will take action.

[souperdave]

.............This site is held to a higher standard of decorum that some other sites.

So allowing "content" such as this.....

"When the world's last politician is strangled using the entrails of the world's last priest, then we shall know peace."

.......is considered "a higher standard of decorum"?

I do not mean any ill-will toward the source of that signature line quote, but if standards are to be "enforced" then I would take that to mean that any offensive or controversial content(s) would be reasonably addressed.

IMHO!;) As a practicing Catholic and a relative to a couple politicians.

[LPCap]

I'm hoping my request will be heeded. If not I will take action.

Is this across the board for all posters?

[Curtis Baillie]

Is this across the board for all posters?You got my message.

[LPCap]

heh...loss prevention ...wow

Update on the Target video:

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Target Brands, Inc."

Interesting.

[Curtis Baillie]

heh...loss prevention ...wow

Update on the Target video:

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Target Brands, Inc."

Interesting.Since the video is no longer available - I'm locking the thread.