What was your scariest moment?

[Mr. Security]

Post away. :)

[1stWatch]

Are you referring to being scared or being scary?

[Mr. Security]

Are you referring to being scared or being scary?

Being scared.

[OccamsRazor]

Does my first marriage count ;) :D :eek:

[Sampson]

1. Being shot at while working at a well known downtown tourist attraction.
2. Coming to the realization that I live in a city where it can rain for 25+ days.
3. 10 years of marriage

[Mr. Security]

Does my first marriage count ;) :D :eek:

Sure; why not. ;)

[Bill Warnock]

Being in your POV with your family, and the two persons in the vehicle following you were the same two you helped arrest and escort them to the county jail.
You turn this way and that and they are still in your rear view mirror. It helps to know the streets in your jurisdiction!
Your wife finally asks why did we pass our home and you tell her you are being followed. She is now scared and you are more frightened because she and your four children could be in peril.
You signal to a passing county mountie and they stop the other vehicle.
You, quite shaken, take your family home and then go to the station and file a report.
Their bond is revoked and you have learned a valuable lesson. You relied on your training and those things taught to you by people who are a whole lot smarter than you.
Enjoy the day,
Bill

[Mr. Security]

...You signal to a passing county mountie and they stop the other vehicle.....

Were the subjects armed? :eek:

[Bill Warnock]

No firearms but several baseball bats. I hated to carry an off-duty sidearm, that changed after that.
Another element to add to the mix, how would you keep your family out of harm's way should you, as a last restort, employ hour sidearm. I can see using an empty automobile as a barrier but not one with innocent occupants.
All of this was in the pre-cell phone era.
Enjoy the day,
Bill

[Mr. Security]

No firearms but several baseball bats. I hated to carry an off-duty sidearm, that changed after that.
Another element to add to the mix, how would you keep your family out of harm's way should you, as a last restort, employ hour sidearm. I can see using an empty automobile as a barrier but not one with innocent occupants.
All of this was in the pre-cell phone era.
Enjoy the day,
Bill

I can't think of anything else you could have done. I know that you would never let them pull along side of your vehicle because they could of had firearms. The priority is always protecting human life, especially loved ones. That is exactly what you did. :) If it happened to you today, even with a firearm for protection, engaging the perpetrators is something that you must not do for reasons alluded to by you above. Better to keep moving until help is available, even if you have to use your vehicle to ram them out of your way.

[Taser]

I was doing an internal of a business around 0200 because I found a door unlocked and I walked in an unlocked office and found the owner of the business having...relations...with a definite prostitute.

It was not a pretty sight. :eek:

That's not the scariest moment, but it's a recent one and that image will be burned into my mind for awhile. Naaaaasty!

[Lawson]

My scariest moment was when some stuff went down on a shift and my boss told me I was looking at time in a Federal Prison and the FBI, USCG, NCIS and some other services were investigating my actions...

Of course this apparently was before they checked with any law enforcement agency.

Got a call the next day "...Hey, we called the Police, there is no investigation."


thanks asshats.

Chalk one up for the WWMP!

[Mr. Security]

My scariest moment was when some stuff went down on a shift and my boss told me I was looking at time in a Federal Prison and the FBI, USCG, NCIS and some other services were investigating my actions...

Of course this apparently was before they checked with any law enforcement agency.

Got a call the next day "...Hey, we called the Police, there is no investigation."

Imagine the "welcome" you may have received at the prison when the inmates learned you were x-s/o! :eek:

[N. A. Corbier]

My scariest moment was when some stuff went down on a shift and my boss told me I was looking at time in a Federal Prison and the FBI, USCG, NCIS and some other services were investigating my actions...

Of course this apparently was before they checked with any law enforcement agency.

Got a call the next day "...Hey, we called the Police, there is no investigation."


thanks asshats.

Chalk one up for the WWMP!

If you were being investigated, rest assured, your boss probally would of joined you for compromising any investigation they tried to conduct by blabbing.

[Mr. Security]

If you were being investigated, rest assured, your boss probally would of joined you for compromising any investigation they tried to conduct by blabbing.

Cell mates. That way you could "review" the matter with your "superior." ;)

[FoxGhost]

The scariest moment i have had was last summer when i was posted in a liquer store in the worst mall of murder in Helsinki.There are a total of 5 officers present at the mall during daytime from two diffrent firms and we are all connected to eachother with radios (while two firms working together might seem strange, over here we who work in the field understand that we are brothers and sisters, and you allways help a bro out).Before this incident there had already been two firearms incidents within a month at the mall, one subject was disarmed by an so,the other by police tactical team.Please note that firearms are extremely rare in security, and none of us had one.
So one day, around noon, the radio came alive with the voice of the officer guarding the mall: "all units, possibly armed subject in the premises.Has been heard threatening to shoot another person and brandishing a weapon. subject description is ...... report if seen, do not approach without backup."
Thats something you never want to hear during a shift.The guy was found out to be unarmed in the end, but those were pretty tense 15 minutes.

FoxGhost

[Mr. Security]

.....Before this incident there had already been two firearms incidents within a month at the mall, one subject was disarmed by an so,the other by police tactical team.Please note that firearms are extremely rare in security, and none of us had one........
FoxGhost

What are the gun ownership laws in Finland for civilians?

[N. A. Corbier]

The scariest moment i have had was last summer when i was posted in a liquer store in the worst mall of murder in Helsinki.There are a total of 5 officers present at the mall during daytime from two diffrent firms and we are all connected to eachother with radios (while two firms working together might seem strange, over here we who work in the field understand that we are brothers and sisters, and you allways help a bro out).Before this incident there had already been two firearms incidents within a month at the mall, one subject was disarmed by an so,the other by police tactical team.Please note that firearms are extremely rare in security, and none of us had one.
So one day, around noon, the radio came alive with the voice of the officer guarding the mall: "all units, possibly armed subject in the premises.Has been heard threatening to shoot another person and brandishing a weapon. subject description is ...... report if seen, do not approach without backup."
Thats something you never want to hear during a shift.The guy was found out to be unarmed in the end, but those were pretty tense 15 minutes.

FoxGhost

Amusingly enough, in America, most law enforcement agencies would say that private security officers would have no business going near that person. Under any circumstances, armed or unarmed. Only trained police officers could safely approach that individual.

In Finland, security officers are required to do so?

[FoxGhost]

What are the gun ownership laws in Finland for civilians?
You can apply for a permit for any small arm that is not full auto so long as you articulate your need for it and your reason for having one is one of the following: hunting,sports/hobby,work,performance,museum/collection,memorabilia,signalling. Your chances of getting the permit depends on your ability to articulate and wheather or not the precinct chief has had his donut&coffee already.


Amusingly enough, in America, most law enforcement agencies would say that private security officers would have no business going near that person. Under any circumstances, armed or unarmed. Only trained police officers could safely approach that individual.

In Finland, security officers are required to do so?

Thankfully,not.Conservators of peace have that duty to a point but only within reason.No one is forced to confront a gunman without a firearm.In the incidents mentioned, the officers used (at least i hope so) common sense and engaged the subject only when it could be done safely.In the last case, two officers came up behind the subject and locked his arms for the duration of the chat&search.In the case where a lone officer disarmed a subject, the subject was out looking for him and they nearly bumped in to eachother.The officer had better reflexes that time.That mall is extremely dangerous,so's have been stabbed&beaten there and firearms are commonly found.The only reason we can hold some control over it is because the dirtbags know that the officers are aggressive in their duties and will not stand down.So's are feared by the bad guys and righfully so.The so's there work under diffrent set of unwritten rules with the blessing of the police precinct.

FoxGhost

[Mr. Security]

Tennsix? Talon? Others?

[Tennsix]

Tennsix? Talon? Others?
I came in late on this conversation. What is your question?

[Mr. Security]

I came in late on this conversation. What is your question?

What was your scariest moment in LE?

[Tennsix]

What was your scariest moment in LE?
hmm.. The night I got off work and was confronted by my wife and girlfriend in the parking lot. :eek:

[Tennsix]

What was your scariest moment in LE?
The last post was a joke :D

I would have to think about it as I have been in LE for 19 years. One that stands out is the drug crazed guy with a bow. We did not know anyone was in a vacant house when a guy shot an arrow as we walked in. The arrow lodged in the wall about 8 inches from my face. He then dropped the weapon and ran outside.

[Mr. Security]

The last post was a joke :D

I would have to think about it as I have been in LE for 19 years. One that stands out is the drug crazed guy with a bow. We did not know anyone was in a vacant house when a guy shot an arrow as we walked in. The arrow lodged in the wall about 8 inches from my face. He then dropped the weapon and ran outside.

Your wife hired him because of your previous post! :D

[1stWatch]

Being scared.

I would say it was the time I was shot at with a rifle when I inadventently drove up to a drug deal in progress behind a laundromat. I was there simply to look at my map to try to find the proper location of a call I was supposed to be at. Fortunately the bad guy missed and I got the h-ll out of there.

[Mr. Security]

I would say it was the time I was shot at with a rifle when I inadventently drove up to a drug deal in progress behind a laundromat. I was there simply to look at my map to try to find the proper location of a call I was supposed to be at. Fortunately the bad guy missed and I got the h-ll out of there.

Scary indeed. I've read too many accounts on ODMP about officers who were ambushed by someone that had a rifle as they responded to a call. Some of them never even made it out of their cruiser. :(

[OccamsRazor]

Can an ex-LEO respond as well?

Scariest? 17 days after I started at my last department, I was sitting in my living room when I heard shots fired outside. As I was grabbing my weapon and flashlight, the radio (yes, it was on, I didn't have a TV at the time) broadcast a report of a cabbie shot in front of my location. I was first on the scene, and missed the doers by about 30 seconds...3rd time I've had someone pass in my arms, not fun at all.

Stupid-scariest was there as well, a gun call of a drunk threatening utility workers with a 30.06. I parked a block and a half over, ran through some yards toward the location. Turns out drunky was running my way too. Rounded a corner and we ran straight into each other, knocking my weapon outta my hand (stupid stupid stupid). He starts to take a bead on me as I yank my back-up, so I simply snatched the rifle out of his hands and butt-stroked him with it. Stupid move, but it was based solely on instinct. That was the most artfully-worded UOF report I've ever done.

[talon]

I was young and stupid and had just been armed, this was before I attended the academy but I had had quit abit of good training under my belt, however I wasn't wearing bodyarmor at this time, the agency I was working for didn't provide it...anyway, I was working at a very dangerous nightclub, again I was young at the time about 25 or 26, I'm 33 now.

There were only 3 of us that had shown up for work on a friday night and of course we were busy as he@# but we were working patting people down at the door...well before long a girl walks up with a group of guys and she introduces herself as a famous rapper...the owner of the establishment being a really smart guy and all allows her and her whole group to enter without being searched.

later on that evening while we (we being the S/O's on duty) were standing around patting ourselves on the back for a job well done, 4 shots ringout from inside the club...the first thing that went through my mind was the fact that I wasnt wearing bodyarmor...

To make a long story short one of the guys that had been let in without being searched had shot another customer in the stomach...then during the ensuing melee had escaped...I went the next day and bought a vest on my credit card...lesson learned.

[Mr. Security]

Can an ex-LEO respond as well?

Absolutely. This thread is for all current & former s/o's and LE. I just wanted to encourage LE to post when I said that. :)

[1stWatch]

Scary indeed. I've read too many accounts on ODMP about officers who were ambushed by someone that had a rifle as they responded to a call. Some of them never even made it out of their cruiser. :(

Forgive me for asking, but what is ODMP?

[OccamsRazor]

Forgive me for asking, but what is ODMP?

Officer Down Memorial Page (http://www.odmp.org)

[Mr. Security]

Thanks wilrobnson :)

[N. A. Corbier]

I think the scariest moments were three:

Standing there, unarmed, with a drunken man who had an empty holster in his boots, which were off his feet and next to him. After I asked him if he had a weapon, he proceeded to draw it. A nice looking $3,000 dollar Les Baer Custom 1911. The most frightening moment was realizing that under Florida's Law, I did not have the authority to retain control of his weapon, I had to give it back to him while he was drunk. Only a Law Enforcement Officer may seize a weapon from a drunken CCW holder, then assess a 25 dollar fine against him for being drunk with a weapon. The police, upon arrival, took the man to his hotel room and locked his gun in his trunk. This was after he started ranting in the parking lot after being released.

The second time was armed, with an unarmed probationary officer who was a mental subject in his own right, at my favorite high risk housing project. "So, I was thinking Pizza *BOOM* *BOOM* Oh sh1t..." Deployed a 6 shot revolver, inside the housing office, and made a series of ambush point rushes to get out. I fully expected to have to shoot a teenager with a 12 gauge on the other side of the leasing office door. My probationary officer froze up in the office, which meant I was alone, having to go out and see who's dead, who's armed, and who I might have to kill. I actually saw the back of the shooter, a beefy 14 year old armed with a police 870. As he dived into a Explorer, I realized... If I had traversed one more building corner, I would of met this kid and either of been shot, or shot him. The residents were busy screaming, "Why didn't you shoot that f--ker!!! We pay you to kill!" There were no injuries. I was not issued body armor. No officer at that site has worn armor. The residents are aware of this.

The last time, and the strangest one, was walking up the stairs to see Saint Petersburg Fire / Rescue working on a morbidly obese woman's lacerations to her arms. Blood was everywhere. Bigdog works this property now. SPFR gave no information about what was going on, the woman became hostile towards them because they refused to transport her again (she was intoxicated), and they requested the police on their radio. SPFR generally hated it when contract security personnel stayed near them, as HIPPA said they couldn't talk to us, and they feared we might interfere. SPPD arrives, an officer I know, and he's look at me, and says, "Oh. Did the firefighters tell you to use universal precautions?" For those of you who knows what that mean, you will imagine how fast I put on my helaspor "Guardian" gloves, while going, "No. They mentioned nothing." The FF/P tried to explain to the officer that its not their job to tell anyone but him that the patient is HIV positive.

After we were gloved, and her lacerations were gauzed up by SPFR, they were amazed that both the SPPD officer and I grabbed and armed, lifted her up, cuffed her as a team, then walked her downstairs. I don't think they were used to seeing SPPD accepting help from security companies.

That's the thing. If I have knowledge of the situation, then I may still fear it, but I can work through it. I have some control over it. Shooter running loose on property? I don't know where the bad guy is, but through tactics and mindset, I can detect his position before he figures mine out. Unarmed with a drunken obxnoxious CCW holder? Scariest part about that wasn't the gun, it was that I had to GIVE IT BACK legally. Rearming a drunk to me was scarier than him drawing it. And having SPFR decline to tell me that the pools of blood that I'm standing near may give me the f-ing HIV... Yeah.

[bigdog]

whats hippa?

[Mr. Security]

whats hippa?

I think it's: Health Information Personal Privacy Act. Just a guess.

[N. A. Corbier]

I think it's: Health Information Personal Privacy Act. Just a guess.

Cookie issued.

The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996, which regulates privacy, security, etc. HIPAA (Sorry) regulates how providers, insurance carriers, and others with access to healthcare information disclose such patient care information.

This means that the healthcare provider may not tell you so much as the patient's NAME, let alone their address and extent of injuries. This is one reason why I do not require an incident report for medical transports on property, only an event report. The amount of information required does two things:

1) Places the security company under HIPAA rules related to the healthcare information of the patient. We got it, we have to keep it safe.

2) Places the EMS provider and the security company in a legal quandry. The EMS provider knows they can't give that information out. It may be illegal for us to solicit that information, as well, from the EMS provider.

[ocp]

I think the moment my pucker facter went through the roof was when I was foot patrolling a complex with 2 other fellow Officers and 3 thugs in a older Olds 2 door did a drive by on us. We did not return fire because the vehicle was speeding away by the time we drew our weapons. after the incident and when I turned around and observed all the broken apartment windows, car windows and bullet holes in parked vehicles. I just about S**T myself knowing that I or my partners could of been hit. no one was hurt that night including any residents, and the police did get the thugs about 5 miles away after we called in their discripition. The responding police officers did make a good point, they stated that yes you could of fired back, but you did the right thing by not because the vehicles was leaving the scene and you did not danger anyone else by your return fire.

[ValleyOne]

I was doing an internal of a business around 0200 because I found a door unlocked and I walked in an unlocked office and found the owner of the business having...relations...with a definite prostitute.

It was not a pretty sight. :eek:

That's not the scariest moment, but it's a recent one and that image will be burned into my mind for awhile. Naaaaasty!
Sadly there are some things in life you cannot unsee...

[james2go30]

Not been doing this long enough to have a scariest moment that fall in with the others I just read...but being new my scariest would be when I had to respond to a unit on the 19th floor where the occupants were tossing beer bottle over the balcony almost hitting several guests and myself. The police were notified and my site supervisor told me to go and talk to these people...being new I was nervous as hell I was the only s/o on property. Well I went to the unit to find five heavily drunk folks in the unit and 4 of those five wanted to become hostile. I held my ground and spoke to the 5th and most calm guy, the one that answered the door. I kept my eyes on him and the others in the unit while keeping myself angled away from the balcony...didn't want one of these drunken idiots to charge me...19 floors would bea long fall. Well I was able to bull**** them long enough and stall them till PCBP arrived and took over...but talk about nervous and scared as hell...that was my first big incident.

[HotelSecurity]

It was the time just after our department was cut back from 2 officers a shift to 1. I got sent to a room where a woman had tried to kill her young son. She forced him to drink alchol then tried to strangle him. (He was about 7). While trying to keep him breathing & waiting for the ambulance, she went into the bathroom & tried to commit suicide.

[james2go30]

It was the time just after our department was cut back from 2 officers a shift to 1. I got sent to a room where a woman had tried to kill her young son. She forced him to drink alchol then tried to strangle him. (He was about 7). While trying to keep him breathing & waiting for the ambulance, she went into the bathroom & tried to commit suicide.
Being down an officer is a pain...and throw a situation like you in the mix it can be damn right scary I can imagine.

[CorpSec]

The event that stands out most in my mind is one that happened this past summer. I was doing an outside tour and someone hurled a 1.75 liter bottle off of a high balcony at me. By high, I mean 25 to 30 floors up.

I never saw it coming and it missed me by just a few feet. The sound of it hitting the ground sounded like a bomb went off. Glass shards went flying everywhere.

Had that hit me, I would have been a goner.

[Mr. Security]

The event that stands out most in my mind is one that happened this past summer. I was doing an outside tour and someone hurled a 1.75 liter bottle off of a high balcony at me. By high, I mean 25 to 30 floors up.

I never saw it coming and it missed me by just a few feet. The sound of it hitting the ground sounded like a bomb went off. Glass shards went flying everywhere.

Had that hit me, I would have been a goner.

No way to know who may have thrown it?

[ocp]

Tell the people in your building to yell "IN COMMING" before they throw bottles or objects off the 30th floor. No I'm just kidding, glad you did not get hit. I would be pissed if I was in your shoes.

[james2go30]

No way to know who may have thrown it?
Hard to do sometimes...espeacially with those high floors. If you see it coming and lock onto that spot, assuming you are safe from impact with the object you can count the floors off, which can bea pain itself sometimes.And the site I work counting floors off at night is damn near impossible because of the lighting on the back decks.

[Miguel]

I had to wrestle down along two other s/o a really BIG guy, who looked like he spent plenty of time at they gym and got really violent. I still don´t know how we managed to do it, but finally he was cuffed and no one was harmed.

[copelandamuffy]

The day lightning struck the Chain Link Fence across from the Gatehouse
I have never hear such a loud bang and flash of light in my life
I left the Gatehouse and spent the rest of my shift in
the Security Vehicle
And after that day, I always bring a change of underwear :D
Don't Ask why :o

[HotelSecurity]

I've had to deal with things thrown from hotel windows often. Ever seen a tv that has been dropped from an 8th floor window?

When I got to the room with the police the guests had gone out. We knew someone from the room had thrown it out of the window but could not prove who. I locked them out & evicted them when they returned (after charging them for the tv) but we could not charge anyone criminally even though they could have killed someone on the sidewalk.

In another case beer bottles were being shrown down a spiral indoor staircase. A group of college kids was out of control & I was alone. I called the police. I was standing with them at the bottom of the stairs. They were telling me they did not have the manpower to start searching the hotel with me to try & find out who was throwing the bottles. All of a sudden a bottle crashes to the ground 2 feet in front of us. 2 minutes later 5 police cars were in front of the hotel. They caught one of the guys on the roof. His friends were hiding. The took the suspect & hung him over the side of the building by his ankles, ordering his friends to come out of hiding. They did :D

[locknid]

scariest moment has to be every time I clear a vacant apt in the middle of the night in the ghetto which has evidence of being kicked in. never fun.

luckily somehow I have managed not to be shot at. I am pretty smart so I do not get myself involved with big groups of people and try not to piss off people for no reason. Although not really that scary the very first time I had a guy with a concealed gun during a search got the heart pumping. Now Im used to it.

[Chucky]

After reading the thread it seems that hotel rooms should not have windows or sliders in them. When I worked the Sheriton (sic) Hotel on Clearwater Beach I remember that they had sliders on all 6 floors but that was only on the water side and seems reasonable.

[CorpSec]

No way to know who may have thrown it?

Nope, there are literally dozens of balconies it could have come from. It is a 44 floor condo/apartment tower. It was the middle of the night. I would love to find out though!

[HotelSecurity]

After reading the thread it seems that hotel rooms should not have windows or sliders in them. When I worked the Sheriton (sic) Hotel on Clearwater Beach I remember that they had sliders on all 6 floors but that was only on the water side and seems reasonable.

It's Sheraton

[james2go30]

I've had to deal with things thrown from hotel windows often. Ever seen a tv that has been dropped from an 8th floor window?

When I got to the room with the police the guests had gone out. We knew someone from the room had thrown it out of the window but could not prove who. I locked them out & evicted them when they returned (after charging them for the tv) but we could not charge anyone criminally even though they could have killed someone on the sidewalk.

In another case beer bottles were being shrown down a spiral indoor staircase. A group of college kids was out of control & I was alone. I called the police. I was standing with them at the bottom of the stairs. They were telling me they did not have the manpower to start searching the hotel with me to try & find out who was throwing the bottles. All of a sudden a bottle crashes to the ground 2 feet in front of us. 2 minutes later 5 police cars were in front of the hotel. They caught one of the guys on the roof. His friends were hiding. The took the suspect & hung him over the side of the building by his ankles, ordering his friends to come out of hiding. They did :D
Sawv a couple of guys toss a couple of deck loungers from the pooldecks off of the tenth floor...needless to say the didn't get to enjoy our facilities much longer

[HotelSecurity]

Sawv a couple of guys toss a couple of deck loungers from the pooldecks off of the tenth floor...needless to say the didn't get to enjoy our facilities much longer

Do they fly good? Mr. Security might have found a new hobby :D

[Marchetti, David, M]

Posted at a collage with a fellow security officer who's an off duty cop with Wallingford, Ct P.D.. A call comes in that someone is in the dorm stabbing kids, I can't get a hold of my back up as he's busy jerking off with a Waterbury cop and turned down his radio as I was interrupting their conversation so much for having an armed officer on the account. I respond and take out my tire iron and enter the building not knowing what to expect, lights are pretty much off so it's dark, and I find what appears to be blood on the walls. I do a walkthrough of the building and everything seems o.k., standing in the lobby I look at the blood and notice it's not really drying. The kiddies mixed some water, ketchup, and smeared it all over the walls as a prank and then called it in. End results, no one was stabbed thank god, Waterbury cop got a chewing out by his Lieutenant for hanging out too much on the post up to several hours instead of patrolling the city, and my so called back up security officer the kiddy cop hated me for reporting the incident to staff and the P.D.'s shift Lt. Oh well life goes on........

[ValleyOne]

Posted at a collage with a fellow security officer who's an off duty cop with Wallingford, Ct P.D.. A call comes in that someone is in the dorm stabbing kids, I can't get a hold of my back up as he's busy jerking off with a Waterbury cop and turned down his radio as I was interrupting their conversation so much for having an armed officer on the account. I respond and take out my tire iron and enter the building not knowing what to expect, lights are pretty much off so it's dark, and I find what appears to be blood on the walls. I do a walkthrough of the building and everything seems o.k., standing in the lobby I look at the blood and notice it's not really drying. The kiddies mixed some water, ketchup, and smeared it all over the walls as a prank and then called it in. End results, no one was stabbed thank god, Waterbury cop got a chewing out by his Lieutenant for hanging out too much on the post up to several hours instead of patrolling the city, and my so called back up security officer the kiddy cop hated me for reporting the incident to staff and the P.D.'s shift Lt. Oh well life goes on........

That is single handedly the funniest thing I have read here. Do you think its slightly possible that you got set up for a prank? I mean am I the only one here who's damn near pissed himself laughing at you searching a building with a tire iron and no flashlight? No pepper spray, not even an ASP?!? ROTFLMAO OMG! Thanks Marchetti I needed a good laugh tonight.

You noticed that the 'blood' wasn't drying? What didja do break out your CSI: Collage Edition scene kit? or didja run your finger through the blood on the walls? "Grisom, the blood its..........its not drying....what's that mean?" "I dunno Marhcetti....what's it taste like then, cuz everyone knows that human blood dries within exactly 2.33 minutes of coming into contact with the air..." "OMG KETCHUP!!!!" "We're dealing with a sick bastard, aren't we Marchetti?"

hahahahahahaha A TIRE IRON!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA

[Arff312]

I am think about this and wondering fi it is possible the police officers set u up. I know that seems kind of rare but thye like to have fun too. I do know of instance where pranks have gone either way where i work so ... just a thought.

[Marchetti, David, M]

No it was the kids having fun just a prank, but had it been a real situation at least I had the balls to respond unlike some of you chicken ****s :O), unlike you i'd be willing to face an armed suspect with no pepper spray, nightstick, or firearm to save someones life which I have done before, I see a lot of you are loud mouth warm bodies in uniforms, and not overly bright and umm that's pretty much about it. I suspect your the types who talk a tough game and then dial 911 in real life when your scared laughing. Have a nice day.

[james2go30]

Do they fly good? Mr. Security might have found a new hobby :D
Don't know I was too busy getting the hellout of the way lol.

[Mall Director]

Mine.. Hmmm.. too easy, I still freak at the thought..

North of Basra, Iraq. After getting past that crappy mud town, our Lt. gave us a recon mission to go 20k's north east into a waddy filled open desert to search out any logistical targets not picked up by airial.

Rolled out early that morning with my TC (team chief) and gunner. We operated a 1033 WW HMWV soft skinned (humvee, no armor). I was clipping along up and down over these waddies (minor hills in sequence), and the last waddy I came over had a depression where there were several large holes and burms dug out. The holes had large green tubes angled out of them. I came to a stop per my TC's order. As he was checking his AFTABS (military MDT style computer with map), I looked over and seen a fellow in a dark green uniform and tan helmet sitting on the back of a T-72 (Russian assault tank). He popped his head up and looked over at us. I could tell he didnt know who or what we were. He starred at us for a good long time (or so it seemed). I alerted my TC, who did the same thing, which was star back at him. Another fellow came walking around the backside of this hole and started chatting at the one layig on the tank. I think it finally dawned on them as to who we were due to the nice american flag patch on my TC's arm. Needless to say, the one resting on the tank got excited, and started banging on the rear hull of the turret on the tank. That bad boy started up, poof of black smoke out the back, and the tube dropped and started pivoting our direction.

I didnt know my TC could cuss so much.. I think he may have even wetted himself. Our gunner ducked back down into the cab and was yelling at me to get us the "bleep" out of here. I didnt wast any time, as I was mashing the automatic down, and pealing out, my TC was dropping our position for fire, on our exact location. As I was rolling out, I was noticing there were a ton load of holes in our area, all of them filled with T-72's. God, I hauled like never before! As we rolled out of the depression area, I cleared the next burm, nd was starting to edge the next when the biggest fireworks show started behind us. As I tried to watch ahead of me an the side mirrors to see the fire, the HE (high explosive) rounds that my TC called in for from our artillery, had made such a precussion, that it cracked the mirrors on the truck.

This whole incident made me realize that I think there was more known then what was shared with us before we left, and the idea was to draw out any opposing forces to be fired upon.

I had a few other scary moments, but I am a happy camper back here now realizing that the bad guys here dont carry anything that big anymore!

[Rooney]

Scariest moment for me. I was working on the flight deck of the USS Kitty Hawk CV-63. I was working on an F-14 gun system when me and a guy I was working with noticed smoke coming from forward. I walked around the corner of the island (superstructure that sticks up from the flight deck) and saw flames circling like a horizontal tornado around all of the bombs and missiles that are staged behind the island. My first instinct was to run. But then I quickly figured out that there is no where to run (Its a ship), if the explosives go up, we all do. I grabbed a firehose and started cooling the ordnance. As more people rushed to help, we started moving the ordnance out from behind the island while still cooling them. Then I noticed the jettison lockers that hold thermite grenades, flares, etc. that are hanging on the side of the ship had paint bubbling. I jumped down to the catwalk where the lockers were (12 feet). I had a nozzleman hose me down while I pulled the jettison handles on the lockers. They fell overboard with one exploding when it hit the water. I went back up to the flight deck and everyone was just getting the fire put out. I wasn't hurt but had a few burns on my arms and hands from the hot jettison handles and the fire. After that I pretty much hate fires. That was the first of 3 flight deck fires I had seen while in the Navy. The awards I got still won't buy a cup of coffee. :)

31 mar 1987
http://www.history.navy.mil/danfs/k4/kitty_hawk-ii.htm

[Bill Warnock]

Scariest moment for me. I was working on the flight deck of the USS Kitty Hawk CV-63. I was working on an F-14 gun system when me and a guy I was working with noticed smoke coming from forward. I walked around the corner of the island (superstructure that sticks up from the flight deck) and saw flames circling like a horizontal tornado around all of the bombs and missiles that are staged behind the island. My first instinct was to run. But then I quickly figured out that there is no where to run (Its a ship), if the explosives go up, we all do. I grabbed a firehose and started cooling the ordnance. As more people rushed to help, we started moving the ordnance out from behind the island while still cooling them. Then I noticed the jettison lockers that hold thermite grenades, flares, etc. that are hanging on the side of the ship had paint bubbling. I jumped down to the catwalk where the lockers were (12 feet). I had a nozzleman hose me down while I pulled the jettison handles on the lockers. They fell overboard with one exploding when it hit the water. I went back up to the flight deck and everyone was just getting the fire put out. I wasn't hurt but had a few burns on my arms and hands from the hot jettison handles and the fire. After that I pretty much hate fires. That was the first of 3 flight deck fires I had seen while in the Navy. The awards I got still won't buy a cup of coffee. :)

31 mar 1987
http://www.history.navy.mil/danfs/k4/kitty_hawk-ii.htm
It won't buy coffee but you will have the undying gratitude of your shipmates and the rest of the Navy. Plus the fact you have proved yourself to yourself as a person who thinks of others before himself. You decided to fight rather than take flight. You have adjusted your moral compass so your intimates as well as the community will know you have a backbone of the strongest known substance and fortitude. Your training and compassion shine in an otherwise gray shaded world. I and many others in this forum will follow you to hell's domain knowing full well you will not shirk.
Thanks for sharing that with all of us.
Warmest regards,
Bill

[Rooney]

Mall director,
WOW, good time for depends undergarments. :eek: I can't even imagine what was going through your head when you realized they were tanks. Glad you made it through and thank you for serving.

Bill,
Thank you for those words.

[ocp]

You dont want navy coffee anyways. ever seen that navy pic showing the sidewinder comming off the F/A-18 during a trap and the missile skidding across the deck. the pic also shows a crew member running to get out of the way. I bet his story would be good.

I found the pic on Military.com

[pigstalker]

this one time I **** my pants in a old peoples home! I blamed the smell on an old woman

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[ctbgpo]

It would have to be the day my sons were born. My oldest was born with a pulse under 60 and no respiratory drive. I watched the nurses do cpr on my child while I held the hand of his twin. The scariest worst day of my life. Everything up to that day and since has been inconsequential.

[GCMC Security]

It would have to be the day my sons were born. My oldest was born with a pulse under 60 and no respiratory drive. I watched the nurses do cpr on my child while I held the hand of his twin. The scariest worst day of my life. Everything up to that day and since has been inconsequential.

ct

I feel your pain. Although I have no kids myself working in a hospital I have to visit our Neonatal ICU regularly and there is nothing I can think of that tears at my heart like seeing those poor babies.

[ctbgpo]

I should have added that 10 months later both boys are fine 25 plus pounds 3 feet tall crawling pulling screaming and acting like nothing ever happened. They are the apple of their father's eye, though I will never forget those moments.

[Curtis Baillie]

this one time I **** my pants in a old peoples home! I blamed the smell on an old woman

(User was reported for this post)I suspect you will soon be warm toast. :)

[N. A. Corbier]

I suspect you will soon be warm toast. :)
Isn't it great when you can catch yourself modifying posts, and then edit them again to remove the edit?

Or, you know, edit posts to put little tags on them for when someone is really stupid. I think, unless I'm yelled at, I may do it more.

[flashlightcop509]

Besides my first marriage? :D

Only thing comes to mind... I'm 14 years old, and I'm home (alone) sick from school; I'm laying on the basement couch and hear somebody messing with the windows. I look out the window and see some guy trying to open the window, so I bolt right up, run and call my Dad at work... Tell him someone's trying to break in the house, so he says run and tell the neighbor across the street (a cop). OK, then I hang up...

...And run back downstairs and make a bee line for the rifle rack (y'all can see where this is going ;) ), yank out my 10/22, and head out the door to confront yon miscreant... About halfway down the walk, I see this guy come round front of the house, so I level my Ruger at him and click the safety off...

Only to recognize him as one of my Dad's friends! My Father had forgotten to tell me his buddy was coming over to put storm glass on the casement windows...

I came thiiiis close... :eek:

[Curtis Baillie]

Isn't it great when you can catch yourself modifying posts, and then edit them again to remove the edit?

Or, you know, edit posts to put little tags on them for when someone is really stupid. I think, unless I'm yelled at, I may do it more. Ya...I responded to one of his posts and then read the rest of them. Saw that he-she-it was an idiot, so I deleted my response to him.

[Rooney]

You dont want navy coffee anyways. ever seen that navy pic showing the sidewinder comming off the F/A-18 during a trap and the missile skidding across the deck. the pic also shows a crew member running to get out of the way. I bet his story would be good.

I found the pic on Military.com

The Navy coffee was good. I especially liked that rainbow sheen on the top from diesel fuel. mm mm good. :confused:

I haven't seen that picture, but I have seen a sidewinder come of a rail of an f-14 during a trap and go skidding across the flight deck. Also seen a bomb rack with a 2000 lb bomb on it come off an airplane during a trap. It cracked it but no big deal. They're safe unless the arming wire comes out and the fuse "fan" rotates enough to arm it.

[FDG06]

My scarest by far, was when I got jumped from behind by 2 & thier outrider was positioned in front to jam me up as we entered a personal access control gate (yes they set me up)..so I'm into a 3 on 1 fight and all I am trying to do is stay on my feet, but with all of them on me, its going to the ground without me having much control over it.
1 attempted a gun grab from behind as he wrapped his arm around my neck to pull me down backwards, but my lvl 3 retention & my own pin-down kept it in the holster until several other officers as well as a few bi-standers joined in.
I was able to draw my baton but was not able to get it expanded in all the malay, before my backup came in.
I credit my Lvl#3 & the repeated handgun disarming & retention classes I took for surviving that day. I pinned my weapon down & was not going to let it come out as I knew what it meant if I had!
Also a strong proponent for carrying ones baton on the weak side where it can be accessed by either hand, had it been on my strong side behind my weapon (as I wore it when a rookie & didnt know better) I would never have been able to draw it and it would have been useless to me there..
Yoda