Plain clothes Security

[RPS]

Does anyone know th answer to this question. If provide security and your security officers are undercover, how do you confront a violator, without having to be in uniform, as per California statue.

RPS

[panther10758]

We were always told to verbally indentify ourselves and if challanged show our badge and ID card. I was rarely challanged

[Lynch Mob]

Does anyone know th answer to this question. If provide security and your security officers are undercover, how do you confront a violator, without having to be in uniform, as per California statue.

RPS
California law allows citizen's arrests for all crimes witnessed. You do not need a uniform.

As for the practical aspect of doing it safely, well that is a much longer discussion. There are some articles on My LP Space (www.mylpspaceonline.com) that cover the subject of shoplift apprehensions.

[RPS]

California law allows citizen's arrests for all crimes witnessed. You do not need a uniform.

As for the practical aspect of doing it safely, well that is a much longer discussion. There are some articles on My LP Space (www.mylpspaceonline.com) that cover the subject of shoplift apprehensions.


I work for a retailer and know that we don't have to wear uniforms and we don't. But as a private patrol operator, working for a retailer, does the private patrol operator's guards have to wear a uniform. Or because they are undercover only have to show a badge when they are asked?

[N. A. Corbier]

I would think you would have to show your guard card to an BSIS inspector or police officer. No one else needs to see your credentials.

[OscarMike]

I would think you would have to show your guard card to an BSIS inspector or police officer. No one else needs to see your credentials.

If anyone without credentials tried stopping me (not that they would ever have reason to) I am going to be extremely skeptical and cautious and probably won't listen if they can't produce proof of identity. Badges and ID tags are important to show authority and intimidate the lifter. Then again anyone can buy a badge online, so ultimately showing a badge isn't necessarily proof, but most people don't know that.

[Nauticus]

If anyone without credentials tried stopping me (not that they would ever have reason to) I am going to be extremely skeptical and cautious and probably won't listen if they can't produce proof of identity. Badges and ID tags are important to show authority and intimidate the lifter. Then again anyone can buy a badge online, so ultimately showing a badge isn't necessarily proof, but most people don't know that.

I could see showing a badge (unfortunately, in BC, security having badges is illegal), but I would never even consider showing my security license. I use verbal identification.

Fact is, any private citizen can arrest for crimes witnessed, so it really doesn't matter who I am that I'm arresting them.

[waldosaw]

California law allows citizen's arrests for all crimes witnessed. You do not need a uniform.

As for the practical aspect of doing it safely, well that is a much longer discussion. There are some articles on My LP Space (www.mylpspaceonline.com) that cover the subject of shoplift apprehensions.

Hey it's good to see your still part of the forum aspect. I hope things are going well for you :).

[Curtis Baillie]

His post was from 3/2007

[waldosaw]

Oh I guess I should have looked at the date ;).

[pfalex]

I could see showing a badge (unfortunately, in BC, security having badges is illegal), but I would never even consider showing my security license. I use verbal identification.

Fact is, any private citizen can arrest for crimes witnessed, so it really doesn't matter who I am that I'm arresting them.

In BC, as it also is here in Ontario, you must produce your security guard license upon request to anybody who asks for it when you're working in that capacity. If they don't ask, no worries, but if you're working and they demand to see your ID, you have a legal obligation to show it.

http://www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/securityindustry/worker/licensed.htm