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N. A. Corbier
12-20-2005, 04:45 PM
What resources have you, as security officers, found or been offered in the lines of officer safety? Police Officers have many hours dedicated in their academies in this subject. We have... variable hours ranging from zero to 40.
With the amount of duties that we undertake - confrontation, traffic, DUI enforcement, and other issues that may not result in a criminal justice arrest, but in eviction or removal, we place ourselves in the line of danger.
What have you learned to end your shift safely, and where did you learn it?
I have two resources that are free, only their DVD costs money, at the bottom of every post I make. Even if your not a member of their forums, I seriously suggestion you find SOME method of training in officer safety, then PRACTICE that training before you really need it.
aaron
12-22-2005, 07:32 PM
i have been trained in "casing" an area on first appearance and in using my asp 21" although i am doing my resit course in Feb 2006
N. A. Corbier
12-22-2005, 07:45 PM
i have been trained in "casing" an area on first appearance and in using my asp 21" although i am doing my resit course in Feb 2006
And what facility taught you to "case" an area on first appearance? Also, what facility provided ASP tactical baton training in Scotland?
Also, what's a "resit" course?
aaron
12-23-2005, 10:10 AM
And what facility taught you to "case" an area on first appearance? Also, what facility provided ASP tactical baton training in Scotland?
Also, what's a "resit" course?
well we were trained in casing an area on first arrival by the met's training and the asp training came from strathclyde police academy.
Basically a resit course is where i have to go back in February to resit the training on using my asp to make sure i still am competent enough to use the asp if required
N. A. Corbier
12-23-2005, 10:51 AM
Google. Its a search engine. Try it sometime.
aaron
12-23-2005, 04:57 PM
Google. Its a search engine. Try it sometime.
have you posted this in the wrong place as i am confused ???
AnGardaSiochana
12-24-2005, 11:13 AM
have you posted this in the wrong place as i am confused ???
He means we checked you out and your full of ****. The London MET trainined you? the Local cops trained you? This just gets better and better. Please provide your instructors names so I can ring them. :D
aaron
12-24-2005, 04:00 PM
im not providiin u ****, go back to officer.com
AnGardaSiochana
12-24-2005, 08:24 PM
im not providiin u ****, go back to officer.com
Your silence speaks volumes. :rolleyes:
aaron
12-25-2005, 07:00 AM
and your ignorance speaks bull****
1stWatch
12-25-2005, 02:53 PM
Perhaps I am a bit ignorant for asking this, but how do you "case" a scene with a baton? Perhaps my definition of the word "case" is a bit off, but all the searches of buildings and open fields I have done have either been with: 1) a spotlight 2) a dog 3) two-man cover with one man in the front doing the search with a flashlight and gun drawn 4) police doing it with helicopter 5) driving the perimeter with a vehicle.
I am stumped how these things could be done with a baton. Does it glow like a lightsaber? Or do you ride it around like a broom and you're the wicked witch of the west?
N. A. Corbier
12-26-2005, 10:17 AM
Perhaps I am a bit ignorant for asking this, but how do you "case" a scene with a baton? Perhaps my definition of the word "case" is a bit off, but all the searches of buildings and open fields I have done have either been with: 1) a spotlight 2) a dog 3) two-man cover with one man in the front doing the search with a flashlight and gun drawn 4) police doing it with helicopter 5) driving the perimeter with a vehicle.
I am stumped how these things could be done with a baton. Does it glow like a lightsaber? Or do you ride it around like a broom and you're the wicked witch of the west?
Monadnock makes a flying broom, I hear it goes well with Wizard law enforcement.
1stWatch
12-26-2005, 10:20 AM
Ah, that explains why the Monadnock is so expensive yet falls apart so easily. It's not designed for striking, but magic spells.
N. A. Corbier
12-26-2005, 04:53 PM
Ah, that explains why the Monadnock is so expensive yet falls apart so easily. It's not designed for striking, but magic spells.
Indeed. Monadnock is a competitor to watch for in the next Tri-Wizard Cup.
Only thing I like about Monadnock are their good, old-fashioned, straight sticks.
aaron
12-29-2005, 09:37 AM
Perhaps I am a bit ignorant for asking this, but how do you "case" a scene with a baton? Perhaps my definition of the word "case" is a bit off, but all the searches of buildings and open fields I have done have either been with: 1) a spotlight 2) a dog 3) two-man cover with one man in the front doing the search with a flashlight and gun drawn 4) police doing it with helicopter 5) driving the perimeter with a vehicle.
I am stumped how these things could be done with a baton. Does it glow like a lightsaber? Or do you ride it around like a broom and you're the wicked witch of the west?
i was just showing where i got taught to case areas and where i got taught to use my asp
AnGardaSiochana
12-29-2005, 10:30 AM
i was just showing where i got taught to case areas and where i got taught to use my asp
Indeed, this would be the ASp that the London MET tought you to use would it? The ASP that is locked in your car at all times but also in a shoulder holster? Hmm which is it? Oh wait its neither, its the offensive, illegal weapon that you insist on telling fibs about.
man you need to grow up, what was your instructors name? Whats the company you work for?
Aaron, your pants are on fire.
aaron
12-29-2005, 02:52 PM
what the hell you talking about,
Your pants are on fire
N. A. Corbier
12-29-2005, 06:22 PM
what the hell you talking about,
Its a popular expression. "Liar, Liar, your pants are on fire." It means that you are being untruthful. Which, by the proponderance of evidence, you appear to be.
Since Aaron seems to enjoy replying to these with non-sensicalness, or questions, prolonging all this. I move to simply ignore his posts when he talks about blatantly false things.
Then again, Aaron is now on my ignore list, so I am blissfully Aaron free.
aaron
12-30-2005, 09:56 PM
Ignore list, well since we are off topic can someone explain how to use it as i have a user i would use it on :P
Will it ignore all posts or just pm's?
Serpico
01-01-2006, 05:37 PM
I've had zero self defense classes in the two security gigs I had. Luckily, I'm a black belt in Tae Kwon Do and have a couple years of Judo.
In fact, the last security company I worked for had a loss prevention account. My company's policy was strictly "no touch" after we had 5 lawsuits in a year because some of the guys got a little too rough with uncompliant subjects.
Bill Warnock
01-01-2006, 06:40 PM
Serpico. There are some folks in the security business who become badge heavy not unlike our LEO cousins.
You still must stay in shape and always, always remember the "Ten Commandments of Security and Law Enforcement" or "Ten Deadly Sins."
Stay alert, stay alive.
Enjoy the day,
Bill
Serpico
01-01-2006, 11:19 PM
Serpico. There are some folks in the security business who become badge heavy not unlike our LEO cousins.
You still must stay in shape and always, always remember the "Ten Commandments of Security and Law Enforcement" or "Ten Deadly Sins."
Stay alert, stay alive.
Enjoy the day,
Bill
I hear ya, man. Sad thing is, both of the owners of the company were cops but we had the easiest hiring practices out of any company I worked for.
I remember my interview. It was more about availability and not so much about the job. My FTO was 3 years younger than me and I'm only 23. :rolleyes:
In 6 months, I made 52 midemeanor theft stops and 3 felony stops. All of which were without incident, except one of the felonies. The scumbag tried to run me over with his car, but that's a story for another time. Point is, I made 55 stops and didn't have to use force on any of them. One of the other FTOs signed off on a guy and a week later, he's got an 82 year old woman wearing bracelets over 2 stolen bags of candy :rolleyes: Another guy made a bad stop and the customer would not come back inside. The LPO went to grab him in a choke, the customer broke the LPOs nose and a month later hit us with a law suit.
By the way, Bill, thanks for that message.
Mr. Security
01-14-2006, 08:36 AM
Serpico. There are some folks in the security business who become badge heavy not unlike our LEO cousins.
You still must stay in shape and always, always remember the "Ten Commandments of Security and Law Enforcement" or "Ten Deadly Sins."
Stay alert, stay alive.
Enjoy the day,
Bill
I'm a badge heavy security officer. My dopey square badge has so much extra metal in it that it can be used as a blunt instrument. :D :p
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