Why wear ID badges /Photo Id's?

[Hold it!]

I'm not aware of any security professional that does not have a ID policy. But, now that I have your attention please feel free to share your input as it applies.

I work for a Pharmaceutical Co. and it's standard policy to wear and visually display your photo Id. Unfortunately, not everyone is receptive to this imposing inconvenience... (Including individuals at the executive level) I have communicated this policy as well as an awareness article. What are some of the methods you use to enforce your ID policies?

:confused:
(Damned if you do damned if you don't)

[aka Bull]

I'm not aware of any security professional that does not have a ID policy. But, now that I have your attention please feel free to share your input as it applies.

I work for a Pharmaceutical Co. and it's standard policy to wear and visually display your photo Id. Unfortunately, not everyone is receptive to this imposing inconvenience... (Including individuals at the executive level) I have communicated this policy as well as an awareness article. What are some of the methods you use to enforce your ID policies?

Politely remind them of the policy. And if they still refuse we follow them to their work area and speak with the supervisor on duty - plus there'll be a log entry our Director sees and takes action on at his level. Of course I haven't had to go that far yet over ID, they've all made it visible when reminded.

[Hold it!]

Thank you,

Appreciate your input... Does your company also require employees to have vehicle identification in the form of a permit or decal?

[HotelSecurity]

I still don't understand why in my industry, hotels, the wearing of photo id is NOT common. Most hotels still only use nametags with the hotel logo & employees name. I have even heard of cases where people have found nametags & used them to gain entrance to hotel rooms. Raymond C. Ellis with the University of Houston is the "dean" of hotel security. I'm going to e-mail him the question & see what he thinks.

[aka Bull]

Thank you,

Appreciate your input... Does your company also require employees to have vehicle identification in the form of a permit or decal?

Yes, by policy all employees are suppose to register their vehicle and get a parking tag. Not all do this however. If they don't register the vehicle there is no action we can take as we can't identify the owner without sending requests to the state motor vehicle division.

It is a problem we have yet found a solution to since we are not permitted to cite employees for failing to register their vehicles (this is considered too harsh).

[Bill Warnock]

I'm not aware of any security professional that does not have a ID policy. But, now that I have your attention please feel free to share your input as it applies.

I work for a Pharmaceutical Co. and it's standard policy to wear and visually display your photo Id. Unfortunately, not everyone is receptive to this imposing inconvenience... (Including individuals at the executive level) I have communicated this policy as well as an awareness article. What are some of the methods you use to enforce your ID policies?

:confused:
(Damned if you do damned if you don't)
Hold it:
If the senior leadership or management do not themselves believe in the policy you will have an uphill battle. Having said that, ask your director of security if they have read the recent memoranda from DEA and FDA on positive identification prior to entry into facilities that manufacture, drug wholesale distribution centers and sales representatives must display valid issued identification while in the performance of their duties to assure positive identification. These documents came about to stem the tide of counterfeit drugs entering the system.
If not mistaken, the Federal Register contains these memoranda and added to the CFR.
Enjoy the day,
Bill

[Hold it!]

Hold it:
If the senior leadership or management do not themselves believe in the policy you will have an uphill battle. Having said that, ask your director of security if they have read the recent memoranda from DEA and FDA on positive identification prior to entry into facilities that manufacture, drug wholesale distribution centers and sales representatives must display valid issued identification while in the performance of their duties to assure positive identification. These documents came about to stem the tide of counterfeit drugs entering the system.
If not mistaken, the Federal Register contains these memoranda and added to the CFR.
Enjoy the day,
Bill

Bill,

Where can I locate this DEA /FDA memorandum?

[Bill Warnock]

Bill,

Where can I locate this DEA /FDA memorandum?
Hold it!
Please contact Ausiello, David C. [David.C.Ausiello@usdoj.gov]
David Ausiello
Public Affairs Specialist/Web Content Manager
DEA Congressional and Public Affairs
(202) 307-5196
If I am not mistaken he can give you the correct information.
If you prefer, send the request to:
Drug Enforcement Administration
Attn: David C. Ausiello
Public Affairs Specialist
700 Army Navy Drive
Arlington, VA 2202
Before I retired the US Marshals Service was in 600. DEA grew so big they needed the entire complex. After retiring they moved USMS to Crystal City in quarters once occupied by one of the US Navy Commands, Naval Air I think.
Enjoy the day,
Bill

[Mr. Security]

Hold it:
If the senior leadership or management do not themselves believe in the policy you will have an uphill battle. ...................
Enjoy the day,
Bill

Bill correctly identified one of the challenges that many of us in corporate security face. When management takes such matters seriously, then it's relatively easy to deal with uncooperative employees. However, when senior management refuses to sign in or display ID because they are "privileged," then I refuse to make an issue out of it.

[ACP01]

One thing to think about is..
What do the SOs orders say..ie "No Admittance without Proper ID Display" or something to that nature then DON'T LET THEM IN! This goes for anyone.

Yes you will get chewed on by some of the Elitist but it is better than being fined or worse if a DEA or FDA inspector observes a No ID admittance.

Being a DEA and FDA governed site I would say that is the policy.

Just my 2 cents

[Bill Warnock]

One thing to think about is..
What do the SOs orders say..ie "No Admittance without Proper ID Display" or something to that nature then DON'T LET THEM IN! This goes for anyone.

Yes you will get chewed on by some of the Elitist but it is better than being fined or worse if a DEA or FDA inspector observes a No ID admittance.

Being a DEA and FDA governed site I would say that is the policy.

Just my 2 cents
ACP01:
Your two cents are diamond encrusted gold pieces! DEA has filed papers and prosecuted several firms for sloppy security, horrible records of not only the manufactured product but past and present employees and lack of background investigations.
It is real dumb to walk around with a hand grenade with the safety pin removed and the only thing that keeps it from exploding is the spoon hopefully pressed against the palm. In today's world, ignoring DEA is just like carrying a live grenade and letting it slip from a sweaty palm.
Enjoy the day,
Bill

[Mr. Security]

Yes, by policy all employees are suppose to register their vehicle and get a parking tag. Not all do this however. If they don't register the vehicle there is no action we can take as we can't identify the owner without sending requests to the state motor vehicle division.

It is a problem we have yet found a solution to since we are not permitted to cite employees for failing to register their vehicles (this is considered too harsh).

This is the way it needs to be done. It such a simple way to make sure unauthorized vehicles are not on site. Asking employees and contractors to complete a registration form allows for easy entry into a computer database so that plates can be run in-house. So simple and yet, often neglected.

Incidentally, I'm not a fan of the generic parking badges that hang on the mirror, etc. It's too easy for anyone to get them from a supplier and slip in. I like the customized ones (w/ company name and logo) that you stick on the inside of the windshield. That prevents loss and theft. It also minimizes the possibility of someone sneaking in.

[aka Bull]

Incidentally, I'm not a fan of the generic parking badges that hang on the mirror, etc. It's too easy for anyone to get them from a supplier and slip in. I like the customized ones (w/ company name and logo) that you stick on the inside of the windshield. That prevents loss and theft. It also minimizes the possibility of someone sneaking in.

Agreed. Ours are not generic, they have the hosptal emblem imprinted on them.

[Bill Warnock]

Agreed. Ours are not generic, they have the hosptal emblem imprinted on them.
aka Bull and Mr. Security you have written what security managers must impress in senior leadership. I would like to add one thing more to complete the circle. Every six months, more or less depending on the threat, change the the color, number system and design of whatever ID you issue. Security ID should not have an indefinite life. Security personnel must be on their toes. "Mine is an old one and I haven't had time to replace it," is a reasonable excuse for the first 30 days to cover leave, the sick, lame and lazy; the excuse is unacceptable thereafter.
Whatever you do, if there is reserve parking do not have designators identifying the person or title of position parking space. For if you do, why not just put up a sign stating, Place Bomb Here!
Enjoy the day,
Bill

[ACP01]

Bill, I really like the grenade thought! VERY true!

If the site has a tiered clearance system the ID/badge display would also quickly let everyone know when an intruder is in the area whether it be someone from shipping just checking with production about a late running order to be shipped or a low-tier Lab type alone in a high-tier accounts area.

Either way an explanation and/or call to Security is in order.

[The Lord of the Keys]

We don't have any problems with the passes used at my site. The only way in is to swipe your ID at one of the entrances and if you are driving both a personal ID and a vehicle one is needed to open a gate. Management isn't a problem because it's alot faster to swipe your ID than it is to contact Security and wait for us to verify your identification and then let you in.

[N. A. Corbier]

We don't have any problems with the passes used at my site. The only way in is to swipe your ID at one of the entrances and if you are driving both a personal ID and a vehicle one is needed to open a gate. Management isn't a problem because it's alot faster to swipe your ID than it is to contact Security and wait for us to verify your identification and then let you in.

Right, but once their in, do they have to display those IDs? Your describing access credentials, something that gets you in. If they don't display them for others to see, then they don't help determine that the person is authorized to be in the area/facility.

A "trick" of penetration testers (people who's job it is to break into places and steal data) is to swipe a random card at the outer door. It lets them in because it was improperly configured. Once their in, with no visible ID requirement who's to say they're not authorized?

[ACP01]

Right, but once their in, do they have to display those IDs? Your describing access credentials, something that gets you in. If they don't display them for others to see, then they don't help determine that the person is authorized to be in the area/facility.

A "trick" of penetration testers (people who's job it is to break into places and steal data) is to swipe a random card at the outer door. It lets them in because it was improperly configured. Once their in, with no visible ID requirement who's to say they're not authorized?

Agreed! Just as burgulars will carry several garage door openers someone out to do no good can carry several swipe cards as one may work. Without ID displaying they can then go into any sector and who is to know the differance.

[Mr. Security]

Agreed! Just as burgulars will carry several garage door openers someone out to do no good can carry several swipe cards as one may work. Without ID displaying they can then go into any sector and who is to know the differance.

Exactly. Even if an employee is suspicious, they still may not say anything out of shyness, wanting to avoid confrontation, or concern about being embarrassed if the person is actually authorized to be there. Even security personnel may hold back from asking just in case he/she is a "big shot."

[aka Bull]

Exactly. Even if an employee is suspicious, they still may not say anything out of shyness, wanting to avoid confrontation, or concern about being embarrassed if the person is actually authorized to be there. Even security personnel may hold back from asking just in case he/she is a "big shot."

One way of testing if anyone is even paying attention to ID is to wear an issued ID with an outrageous (and obviously false) name and title.

<Your photo here>
Mickey Mouse
Senior Cheese Eater

Many times people will look at an ID, but they won't "see" it.

[Mr. Security]

One way of testing if anyone is even paying attention to ID is to wear an issued ID with an outrageous (and obviously false) name and title.

<Your photo here>
Mickey Mouse
Senior Cheese Eater

Many times people will look at an ID, but they won't "see" it.

Didn't something similar happen at the DHS? The first line was valid and the rest was baloney. Security let them through. :D

[Bill Warnock]

One way of testing if anyone is even paying attention to ID is to wear an issued ID with an outrageous (and obviously false) name and title.

<Your photo here>
Mickey Mouse
Senior Cheese Eater

Many times people will look at an ID, but they won't "see" it.
aka Bull:
That is one of the best ways we got into many a restricted area. I had a photograph of our secretary, blonde with green eyes. It worked. At another installation, a hairy gorilla, the list go on and on.
The military court did not convict any of them when evidence was presented they had "conditioned response" to any picture presented especially if they were on a post for more than four hours especially when it was hot and dry. The behavior laboratory at Wright Patterson AFB, OH had conclusively demonstrated those factors came into play. The same can be said of those folks watching alarm monitors, or for that matter, CCTV monitors at x-ray units. Over again and over again the same scene or the same set of circumstances repeated and repeated. Those already convicted had, depending upon the circumstances, their convictions overturned.
The National Fire and Burglar Alarm Association ran a series of exhaustive studies along with one conducted at DOD's Human Engineering Laboratories at Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD. Results were identical to earlier studies.
I have for many years strongly recommended that sentries be rotated ever 20 to 30 minutes to another duty or dissimilar post.
Enjoy the day,
Bill

[aka Bull]

aka Bull:
That is one of the best ways we got into many a restricted area. I had a photograph of our secretary, blonde with green eyes. It worked. At another installation, a hairy gorilla, the list go on and on.
The military court did not convict any of them when evidence was presented they had "conditioned response" to any picture presented especially if they were on a post for more than four hours especially when it was hot and dry. The behavior laboratory at Wright Patterson AFB, OH had conclusively demonstrated those factors came into play. The same can be said of those folks watching alarm monitors, or for that matter, CCTV monitors at x-ray units. Over again and over again the same scene or the same set of circumstances repeated and repeated. Those already convicted had, depending upon the circumstances, their convictions overturned.
The National Fire and Burglar Alarm Association ran a series of exhaustive studies along with one conducted at DOD's Human Engineering Laboratories at Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD. Results were identical to earlier studies.
I have for many years strongly recommended that sentries be rotated ever 20 to 30 minutes to another duty or dissimilar post.
Enjoy the day,
Bill

Bill, I understand what you're saying. Having spent long hours on post I could hold an ID in my hand and look at it and realize something was wrong with it but I was so tired I couldn't figure out what. Had the person been a real bad guy he'd of "owned" me.

The mind isn't always hard to fool.

[burley]

I coordinate security for a very large transit agency with many critical sites/rail yards. While there have not been many very serious security incidents targetting our transit system, there have been threats. Having said that, this organization is not accustomed to spending a lot of money on crime prevention in our rail yards, hence it's an uphill battle initiating new security measures. We also have a very strong union with political strategies that sometimes dictate what measures will be implemented and those that won't.

I have implemented the ID program at head office and 1 main property. I recently presented to senior mgmt. to get their support for rolling out the wearing of photo IDs while on all non-public transit properties (bus & rail divisions). They stated that they don't believe the ID program is necessary, as they know who should be on the property and who shouldn't (property in question has about 1500 employees).

I have documented my recommendations (to cover myself) to roll out the ID program and now unfortunately I have to sit back and wait for an incident, that probably could have been prevented.

Any ideas?

[ACP01]

If nothing else you can have your security people start wearing theirs.

This might have an effect on other departments or may not but at least for YOUR department it will be easy for others to spot a pretender.

Something you could try is next time your department hires someone is have the new person wonder around (ID hidden) and see just where all he can get in and possible leave stick-em notes at key locations with a number to call. (Please call XXX-XXXX or ext XXX), (one attached to the back of a chair of a company exec will get their attention.) When the number is called tell them it is a security department eval of unauthorized entries or something.

Hope things work out for you.

[burley]

Thanks for the feedback. We insist that mgmt. wear their ID and that's pretty easy as they're staff; it's unionized employees who don't comply with the program. My security staff are uniformed so they're not an issue. I think I'm going to have to wait for an incident, as (non-security minded) site mgmt. seem to believe that they know everyone who should be on property. Your intrusion exercise has been tried and was very successful in penetrating the "secure" buildings. Selling security is not easy when there are no startling incidents to scare up funding.

[GCMC Security]

When I worked at a major call center, employees were required to wear their badges at all times above the waist area. They swiped them to come in (when swiped thier picture came up at the monitor at the security desk so you can match people up) and then were required to show them to the officer on desk duty.

When I moved to another branch of that company as lead officer (an old walmart converted to a call center, a unique experience) I started a small program where if an employee did something to help with security and it was reported they'd get something as a reward. Mainly the big thing was a free soda or something for asking someone where their badge is.

About a month or so before I transfered off that contract, I recieved a call from the HR department to come by thier offices. When I arrived an employee was standing with the one of the Senior VPs who had left his badge on his desk! Playing the part he did not tell her who he was until I arrived. When we told her, she was scared for her job! (Sad I think) The VP was so impressed with her doing it, he bought her entire dept pizza that next friday.

Basically I'm saying get you employees involved, true I was buying most of the sodas on my own dime, but it helped me do my job.

[aka Bull]

Thanks for the feedback. We insist that mgmt. wear their ID and that's pretty easy as they're staff; it's unionized employees who don't comply with the program. My security staff are uniformed so they're not an issue. I think I'm going to have to wait for an incident, as (non-security minded) site mgmt. seem to believe that they know everyone who should be on property. Your intrusion exercise has been tried and was very successful in penetrating the "secure" buildings. Selling security is not easy when there are no startling incidents to scare up funding.

Even though your security personnel are uniformed you should have them wearing their ID in plain sight, if for no other reason than they're setting the example to the unionized employees.

Also, if it comes to the point where management is having the wearing of ID's enforced then it removes any argument by the unionized employees have by being able to say "they're not wearing theirs."

We are in uniforms at our department and our ID's are visible according to policy - there is no exemption for us just because we're in uniform.

Plus - uniforms can be faked too if someone really wants to bad enough.

[Eric]

Talk with MR or MRS CEO, once they buy in and wear it, you will get some followers. There will always be a small percentage of staff that give you the most problems.

A coworker a couple of years ago was "discussing" with a "client" why he could not be allowed in the building without an ID. The CEO walked in, stopped, pulled out his card, said good morning and continued on his way. Without a word, he went back to his car to get the badge.

[Arrowslinger]

Where I work it does not seem to be a big issue, ID's are also access badges. But in rare cases an incident report is written and sent to the employee’s department manager.

[EMTGuard]

I work in a steel mill. No IDs worn by anyone but us in the guard shack. No parking passes on the mirror or windshields either. Most cars barely slow down driving past the guard shack at the main gate. We don't inspect anything and about the only people who get signed in are the delivery drivers, UPS/Fed Ex/rental companies, who mainly come through when the day shift is working.
We tried suggesting that things be tightened up some but if the client isn't interested we aren't going to argue. We only provide the level of service the client wants.

[Bill Warnock]

I work in a steel mill. No IDs worn by anyone but us in the guard shack. No parking passes on the mirror or windshields either. Most cars barely slow down driving past the guard shack at the main gate. We don't inspect anything and about the only people who get signed in are the delivery drivers, UPS/Fed Ex/rental companies, who mainly come through when the day shift is working.
We tried suggesting that things be tightened up some but if the client isn't interested we aren't going to argue. We only provide the level of service the client wants.
EMT Guard:
If I might be so brazen, just what are your duties? Under what circumstances will you react to what with what.
Perhaps Nathan is correct, as is usually the case, are you there for insurance purposes to preclude what?
Enjoy the day,
Bill

[N. A. Corbier]

I think his duties are more emergency response to accidents as an EMT, and they threw the security duties in extra. :)

[Bill Warnock]

I think his duties are more emergency response to accidents as an EMT, and they threw the security duties in extra. :)
Nathan this may be nothing more than Security Theater. What an absolute shame. What I can't figure out is just why sit in a guard shack instead of in the building where the real action may occur?
Warm regards,
Bill

[DizZy SO]

I used to work as order filler at an auto distribution center and all employees were required to wear ID badges. You needed the ID to get in the building and to punch in and out. Most people would wear it visibly in the start and end of the shift that’s the only time security was in the building the rest of the time they were in the guard shack and employees would have their ID in their pockets.

At the site I work at now you need the ID badge to gain access if not the lobby officer will stop you and not let you in, if the employee continues to refuse, which they usually don’t, the shift supervisor will come out and take over the situation. ID is needed all over the site to enter different buildings and rooms. As security we must also wear ID. Policy states that all employees and contractors must wear ID badges while on the property between the neck and waist.

[Special Investigator]

Here in Wisconsin, the Dept of Regulation & Licensing REQUIRES private investigators & private security personal to carry on their person a photo ID while on duty.

[N. A. Corbier]

Here in Wisconsin, the Dept of Regulation & Licensing REQUIRES private investigators & private security personal to carry on their person a photo ID while on duty.

It also requires you wear a nametag or identifying number on the outermost garment of your uniform, but people can't seem to follow that RL rule.

[Special Investigator]

It also requires you wear a nametag or identifying number on the outermost garment of your uniform, but people can't seem to follow that RL rule.

You are correct. Thanks for pointing that out. :D

[EMTjon]

We deal with it too.

Corprate Policy says that employees must display their ID at all times. It also says that the ID card and proximity access card should be kept seperate... which no one does.

Many employees wear their ID and prox card together, on a retratable lanyard, at their waistline. Problem is - if they are wearing any sort of coat or jacket, it is covered.

As Security, our lobby officers are supposed to challenge all coming in for ID, and just verify they are carrying something that looks similar to an ID badge from 15+ feet away. We are supposed to challenge EVEN IF they hit their prox card coming in.

As for vehicle permits - ours are custom made, but DO NOT have any corprate ID on them... just a big letter and a unique 5-digit number. Re-issuing the permits last time was a royal pain (I coordinated it) and it took about 2 months.

[Mr. Security]

Speaking of ID, has anyone looked at the X-files FBI ID's sold on E-bay? They look so real that I would have a difficult time distinguishing it from the real thing. To me, it appears to be a security risk since they could easily be tampered with. I'm surprised E-bay allows it.

[exguard]

Where Im at.....Major Northeast Refinery with Thousands of Employees the ID Badge is the time card - If you leave it at home or in the car you don't get into the complex....All gates are ID Badge Controlled and just about all the internal buildings, offices, gates, Etc. operate on the ID Badge so we raley have problems.

A good percentage of the contract employees {Pipe Fitters, Steam Fitters, Line Workers, Unit Operators, Processers, and mechanics have to have the ID Badge as a time card.....They badge in at a turn-style and badge out at a turn-style

Excecutives at our facility expect the policy enforced.....We as the Protection Department enforce those rules and make reports on the violators even if their in top management. We have a zero tolerance policy especially being a Refinery and all the extra Security after 9-11

[SecTrainer]

Excecutives at our facility expect the policy enforced.....We as the Protection Department enforce those rules and make reports on the violators even if their in top management. We have a zero tolerance policy especially being a Refinery and all the extra Security after 9-11

Whether it's a refinery, school or steel mill, organizational executives must be taught that both personal ID and vehicle registration requirements and procedures *must* be treated as zero-tolerance programs in order to have any real (predictable) value whatsoever. Any compromise in enforcement is, in effect, total compromise (how many attackers does it take to drop off a bomb, or shoot up the cafeteria? Answer: ONE!). Ask one of them that question, and if they can't figure out the answer...tell them. Let them know that they're just wasting their money if they're really just joking about these programs...and this is one of those cases where you're either dead serious about the issue or you're just kidding. There's no "headroom" or "tolerance" for sloppiness.

Would these same executives allow the accounts receivable people to bill customers whenever they "felt like it" or whenever they happened to "remember" to do so? Would it be okay for the safety people to deal with a leak in a chlorine tank according to set procedure if someone just "happened to notice it", "happened to know about the procedure", or wasn't "just too busy to bother about that right now"? Absurd ideas, yes, but no more absurd than running a sloppy ID program.

The design of every different type of ID presumes or dictates that certain specific procedures will be followed in how they're worn, displayed, swiped, etc. These design parameters are what they are, whether anyone likes it or not, and so the procedures required because of the design features must be observed...all the time, and without exception. If the photo is of such a size that it can only be checked by handing it to the security officer for examination, for instance, well...that's just the way it is. No one's wishes, hopes, preferences, laziness or indifference will change the size of the photo. This suggests that you think about these procedural implications of ID design before you select an ID system.

A poorly-selected, poorly-enforced, poorly-managed ID program is infinitely WORSE than no ID program at all, for reasons that should be obvious even to naive company executives. So, Mr. Business Executive, the message is this: When your risk profile dictates the use of IDs, make up your mind right from the get-go that it must be done right and strictly enforced (including you, sir!) or you've wasted lots of money without reducing your liability one iota.

[HotelSecurity]

Hotel guest don't normally wear id :eek: (Sometimes organized groups make their people wear wrist bands).

[Mr. Security]

Any security program, other than government, must have a procedure for dealing with executives who might forget their badge. Many corporations will issue a temporary badge through the security department when the human factor, i.e. forgetfulness, occurs.

Security in not compromised by such an arrangement. Records will track habitual offenders and appropriate discipline is administered as required.

[SecTrainer]

Hotel guest don't normally wear id :eek: (Sometimes organized groups make their people wear wrist bands).

Of course not...but if employees are expected to do so, then they should always be required to do so, no exceptions.

[SecTrainer]

Any security program, other than government, must have a procedure for dealing with executives who might forget their badge. Many corporations will issue a temporary badge through the security department when the human factor, i.e. forgetfulness, occurs.

Security in not compromised by such an arrangement. Records will track habitual offenders and appropriate discipline is administered as required.

Yes, that's true. Procedures for dealing with such situations are precisely part of "the ID protocol" that I'm referring to - as well as the procedures for how badges are issued generally, how they are retired, etc. All of those things are part of the ID protocol.

However, what cannot be permitted is that the executive be allowed to simply wander around without ID merely because he forgot it. If that is happening, then the ID system IS indeed compromised, as I said.

[exguard]

We do have temporary badges and vehicle hang tags that we'll issue for those who either forget their ID or loose it. - If it's lost we have the ability to disable the badge and send the person to our processing center for a new one {at a $25.00 replacement fee of course}

What we enforce is the office employee or member of management staff who leaves the badge on thier desk or in thier brief case and is found walking around with out it or in the cafeteria with out a badge. Or the Plant Employee who doesn't properly display the badge while working inside the facility {Units, Tank Farms, bolier houses, docks, pump rooms, etc...}

Our outside contractors are another complete nightmare. They have issued ID badges as well and don't understand their importance until we end up disabling it for one reason or another.

[Bill Warnock]

We do have temporary badges and vehicle hang tags that we'll issue for those who either forget their ID or loose it. - If it's lost we have the ability to disable the badge and send the person to our processing center for a new one {at a $25.00 replacement fee of course}

What we enforce is the office employee or member of management staff who leaves the badge on thier desk or in thier brief case and is found walking around with out it or in the cafeteria with out a badge. Or the Plant Employee who doesn't properly display the badge while working inside the facility {Units, Tank Farms, bolier houses, docks, pump rooms, etc...}

Our outside contractors are another complete nightmare. They have issued ID badges as well and don't understand their importance until we end up disabling it for one reason or another.
exguard:
Re: outside contractors. That is a failure of the refinery management and their security director to properly educate outside contractor managers on the importance of proper identification. We live in a different era and that means radical thinking for many layabout management.
Enjoy the day,
Bill