What Is Your Rank ?

[S/O245]

Currently My rank is Officer at this time. Currently im the only full time officer at my assignment. I have one part time officer that work 2 days a week etc. Our Ranks go Officer (Probationary Status for 90 days) then reg officer, sgt, Lt, cap and up etc. Our Patrol Supervisors are LT's and up. They are the shift commanders etc.

Stay Safe All :)

[1stWatch]

My rank with the company I currently work for is "patrol officer". The ranks start from lowest to highest with patrol officer, corporal, sergeant, staff sergeant, first sergeant, lieutenant, captain, major, and colonel. Similar ranks exist within the guard division of the company.

[pfd1615]

Custom Protection LT....our company is broken into different catagories of officers based on experience and qualifications, not the best system but it works. I am a site supervisor over 6 Upscale Security Officers and one other Custom Protection Officer. In January I will be adding probably 6-8 CPOs.

[S/O245]

Cool 1st watch.

I almost got hired on with a security agency for S/O for a patrol assignment. Its a big place they have well over 300 trailer houses single and doublewides I grew up in this place from time i was 4 yrs old on up. Its a nice area to patrol they get trouble every now and then but its no where near the trouble we have in the city i live in now lol. The reason they did not hire me is because im 23 and not 25. I guess some patrol car insurance thing. Aint that nice lol. I got a call from the security comp recruiter and he said how old are you again i said 23 he said that wont do. My reply was it wont do ? LOL. Cause im thinkin i have no crim record or anything i have some training & experience and im 23 and can pack a heater LOL. I may apply for it when im 25. I like to be moving i dont like to sit too much so i think i would like a big patrol area like that.

I dont think its a armed assignment but they do carry OC and a Baton and radio. And they issue tickets for certain parking violations in the park. I think if they get so many tickets the complex manager gives some sort of fine or somethin i dunno. And I have known the S/O to tell un ruly guests that they cant come back and if they do the sheriffs dept will come and arrest etc.

Stay Safe All :)

[Arff312]

I am a Officer/EMT. We have ranks from CSO, Officer,Corpral, Sergant, LT. , Assistant director of security, Director of security.

[N. A. Corbier]

Custom Protection LT....our company is broken into different catagories of officers based on experience and qualifications, not the best system but it works. I am a site supervisor over 6 Upscale Security Officers and one other Custom Protection Officer. In January I will be adding probably 6-8 CPOs.

*adds some service marks to those titles*

How's Wackenhut where you are? I've heard good things and bad things about Wackenhut. :)

[pfd1615]

I have worked for 2 different Wackenhut Area Offices. The one in Grand Rapids, MI I liked. No problems. This one well.................

[1stWatch]

Cool 1st watch.

I almost got hired on with a security agency for S/O for a patrol assignment. Its a big place they have well over 300 trailer houses single and doublewides I grew up in this place from time i was 4 yrs old on up. Its a nice area to patrol they get trouble every now and then but its no where near the trouble we have in the city i live in now lol. The reason they did not hire me is because im 23 and not 25. I guess some patrol car insurance thing. Aint that nice lol. I got a call from the security comp recruiter and he said how old are you again i said 23 he said that wont do. My reply was it wont do ? LOL. Cause im thinkin i have no crim record or anything i have some training & experience and im 23 and can pack a heater LOL. I may apply for it when im 25. I like to be moving i dont like to sit too much so i think i would like a big patrol area like that.

I dont think its a armed assignment but they do carry OC and a Baton and radio. And they issue tickets for certain parking violations in the park. I think if they get so many tickets the complex manager gives some sort of fine or somethin i dunno. And I have known the S/O to tell un ruly guests that they cant come back and if they do the sheriffs dept will come and arrest etc.

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The company I work for usually doesn't hire people into patrol under age 25 either. They say it's because of vehicle insurance, but the real reason is the average maturity of the individual applying for the job. Patrol is a completely different ballpark than working a post. Quick decision making skills, effective verbal mediation, and knowledge/proficiency of the written law come into play a lot more, as well as proficiency with navigating the map. Those skills come from a combination of training and experience. Certainly many 23 year olds could do the job, but that is just the employers preference.

Of course, what I mean by "patrol" is not just one place of assignment. For example, when I worked a post in Dallas I had one apartment complex with more than 4,000 units and I was supplied with a bicycle or a car depending on what was available. That was not actual patrol, but a large post.
Patrol was assigned 85 such apartment complexes per zone and each officer was responsible for covering every single one of them and responding to any calls from them, actively looking for criminal activity, and issuing lease violation tickets for violations of property regs and non-arrestable misdemeanors. That type of position more closely matches LE's version of patrol.

[S/O245]

I think it should go on how well the officer past training & experience he is. I understand them thinking that a 25 yr old might be better than a 18 or up yr old but i dont see it. Now im not saying that age may not help. It should be on his/her ability to handle the job and not age or other non jon reasons. I think the reason he wanted to bring me on was i had some prior training & experience and i grew up in the area. So i know all the streets and stuff. I know alot of people in the area. Some up to good and some up to bad lol. But its mostly a good area. But like i said i may apply for it when im 25 because i really love the city its got a great PD i know all the officers cause i was a Explorer with em 5 yrs i have known some of the officers all my life my dad was a deputy 11 yrs. The PD has a good responce time to 911 calls they had one of the best in the county. And like i said alot of good people and a few bad or a few bad ones travel into the city and the patrol assignment area.

When i moved to the bigger city i found out i hate it LOL. sirens going too much and bunch of other stuff. I was on the way to work one night and called out a poss fight. turns out two idiots were pretending but from the distance i could not really tell. I was driving down my street my house is on and i see someone laying on the ground i stop at the stop sign i was going to yell hey are you ok. But i decide to wait to see what the deal is first then i seen a male rounding the corner with a big stick this other male on the ground starts screaming no no no etc. then i called 911 and told the dispatcher what was going on then i left cause i had nothing to defend my self with for the guy is this was really somethin bad goin on. Well i came back around the area at the top of the street next thing i know i get pulled over female officer asked me why i came round 2 or 3 times etc. Then she ocne she seen my uniform she knew i called in the poss fight. A 2nd ofc pulls behind her and he tells me it was two people playing. Then i hear they had a drug bust bout to go down a radi with Swat and other officers so thats why i got pulled over. Then i said to my self i gotta move out of here. Too much stuff happens LOL. But even in this city where the crime rate is higher than where i use to live u have good people here to.

Stay Safe All :)

[Mr. Security]

I work for two different companies. First: S/O & FTO Second: Chief Advisor

[S/O245]

Field Training Officer ? cool. I dont know if we have a rank like that or not. We have a person incharge of training that is a retired police academy commander. But im not sure if we have FTO's. Im not at the Office that much lol. Only when I need to be lol.

Stay Safe All :)

[N. A. Corbier]

Field Training Officer ? cool. I dont know if we have a rank like that or not. We have a person incharge of training that is a retired police academy commander. But im not sure if we have FTO's. Im not at the Office that much lol. Only when I need to be lol.

Stay Safe All :)

Security companies can have just about any rank or title that dosen't have prohibited words in it. In Wisconsin, its perfectly legal to have the official title "Private Police Officer," for example. Most companies up here "Security Police Officers," etc.

In Florida, there is a list of prohibited terms in statute, such as 'police, patrolman, trooper, deputy,' etc. Yes, patrolman.

[S/O245]

in Cincinnati they have Cincinnati Private Police Officers. As i understand it they have Police Powers im not sure if its just on duty or off duty but i do know they have private po's i think the reg cincinnati police depts cheif of police gets them sworn in. I think the private pd's site said they also work with Cincinnati Police Officers.

Oh while im on about the Cincinnati Police I think the old cincinnati city council is at it again. I guess from City Hall they want them to issue so many tickets parking speeding etc. If they dont they can be wrote up i guess a reprimand they can be put on desk duty or get this one they can be placed on foot patrol on a walking beat in a high crime area alone. That one pissed me off. I guess they placed a 7 yr vet on desk duty because he did not issue enough tickets. He came out with the story to the news and the FOP Cincinnati Lodge President a Sgt a 24 or 27 yr vet confirmed that yes the city has been known to place officers alone on a foot patrol beat. That is a office safety issue. What I dont understand how does city hall expect officers to write that much tickets when they know cpd is a busy area. They got drugs gangs etc. The FOP says City Hall is making speeding a number 1 priority.

I wrote e-mails to the Cheif of Police and the mayor and all council members asking them to stop putting officers in risk alone. The Cheif i think needs to get people behind him and stand up but he wont because he knows how the city council is. Can you think of being on foot patrol by your self in District 1 ? or others. Where you got the good old bloods and crips running around with knifes and any other weapon they get ahold of. This city council has failed us so many times they have really just lost my respect. When you start putting the men & women in uniform in harms way alone that pisses me off and i wont respect them intill they make a big change. The council always say crime crime crime. Problem is they only talk about stopping crime around election time. This story of what city hall is doing and has done in the past came 2 days after elections.

Stay Safe All :)

[SeanCO]

I'm a Patrol Officer and in the Navy I'm a Petty Officer 2nd cl***. :)

[UncleDooly]

Currently My rank is Officer at this time. Currently im the only full time officer at my ***ignment. I have one part time officer that work 2 days a week etc. Our Ranks go Officer (Probationary Status for 90 days) then reg officer, sgt, Lt, cap and up etc. Our Patrol Supervisors are LT's and up. They are the shift commanders etc.

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I work a Gate House (when I first got there they called it a Guard Shack - I told them the city dump has a Guard Shack - upscale communities have Gate Houses....haha). Since we're are strictly Access Control, they're trying to remove the "security" designation from everything there so as not to imply a security presence in the community (liability). In determining what we should be called, I suggested "gateboy."

[N. A. Corbier]

I work a Gate House (when I first got there they called it a Guard Shack - I told them the city dump has a Guard Shack - upscale communities have Gate Houses....haha). Since we're are strictly Access Control, they're trying to remove the "security" designation from everything there so as not to imply a security presence in the community (liability). In determining what we should be called, I suggested "gateboy."

"Gate Attendant."

You won't even need a D license. :)

[S/O245]

gateboy LOL

[S/O245]

or how about gatedudes ? A lil cooler name lol

Stay Safe All :)

[pfd1615]

On my site (an upscale community as well) they don't like the wore 'security' either so we are Community Patrol Officers. Most the time when we answer the phone we have to explain that yes we are security lol

[jakeslife]

I'm LT right now, which is a Lead Officer (we conduct roll call, coordinate responses, approve OT, direct officers to certain calls, etc.).

[wvd1979]

Protective Services Officer II

[Taser]

Sergeant or Shift Supervisor

But Sarge or Douche Bag gets my attention faster. :D

[ycaso77]

University Security Officer 1, USO 2, Alternate Lead Officer, Lead Officer then the inumerable management titles. Rank markings/insignia are frowned upon and the students can't tell the difference between security and the university police-never mind whos who in security.

[HotelSecurity]

At my downtown 500 room hotel I am Assistant Director of Security but I also cover one of the three 8 hour shifts, usually alone.

At the other 2 hotels (280 & 222 rooms) I am the Assistant Director of Security. I'm on call overight for the lone Officer to call in case he needs help/advice.

I do the hiring, firing, training, payroll etc etc etc :p for all 3 hotels.

My boss works for the owner of the 3 hotels. His main job is NOT security, being Security Director is a part-time position.

[bigdog]

I was just promotred to CPL yesterday. I am now site supervisor for two of our apt complexes.

[CAR54]

I'm currently an officer, and I plan on keeping it that way as long as I'm with this account. The Sgt's here only make a dollar an hour more and the Lt. make a buck and a half over that, but it's a 24/7 job for them. As long as this is the pay scale here I'll stick with officer.

Also I've noticed the Sgt's here only stick with the job a short time, once the "glamour" of having a few bars on their shirts wear off the reality sinks in that the money is practically the same and they have a lot more responsibility so off they go.

[sgtnewby]

Right now we have the following:

Officer
FTO
Investigator
Supervisor
Manager
Director

I am currently an FTO.

In the fall when we do our budget, we will include budgeting for 2 new badges per employee and will be changing to a rank structure as follows:

Officer---------Officer
Investigator----Sergeant
FTO-----------Sergeant
Supervisor-----Lieutenant
Manager-------Captain
Director--------Chief

[EMTGuard]

Our company doesn't use a rank system. You have different pay scales and the higher the pay the higher in rank you are. It looks something like this-
Unarmed SO- Lowest paid/rank
Armed SO- Makes a little more than unarmed.
SO with special certification- SOs hired with particular skills such as medical, rescue, haz-mat, fire fighting, etc as needed by the client. Example, I'm a SO with EMT certification.
On Site Spervisor- the SO in charge of all the others at a particular clients site. He is the one who handles the schedules, sends in the time sheets to payroll, deals with the client regarding everyday operations, etc.

[1UNDER1]

i am an assistant supervisor 2nd shift, right now, It really sucks since I only make $13 per hour, to make any money I have to work 64-72 hours in a week. And to think I am ex law enforcement, but my job is easy, no one bothers you, and you can bring in a dvd player lol :D

[Jackhole]

i am an assistant supervisor 2nd shift, right now, It really sucks since I only make $13 per hour, to make any money I have to work 64-72 hours in a week. And to think I am ex law enforcement, but my job is easy, no one bothers you, and you can bring in a dvd player lol :D
Just curious, why are you ex-law enforcement at 35? If you did 20 and out, you wouldn't be working 64-72 hours per week, your retirement would be helping you out...

[Jackhole]

Rank markings/insignia are frowned upon
Why's that?

[1UNDER1]

Just curious, why are you ex-law enforcement at 35? If you did 20 and out, you wouldn't be working 64-72 hours per week, your retirement would be helping you out...

FYI i was on the job for 4 years, and was hurt, got out w/ nothing due to 5 years your vested, only recieved 1 lump sum of workers compansation. :mad: I will be going back now with NYCPD School Safety in September..... :)

[Jackhole]

FYI i was on the job for 4 years, and was hurt, got out w/ nothing due to 5 years your vested, only recieved 1 lump sum of workers compansation. :mad: I will be going back now with NYCPD School Safety in September..... :)
Who were you with, NYPD?

[AirportSecurity]

I'm Point Lead (supervisor) the guy with the Red stripe on my shoulder boards.
I am also a serving member of the Canadian Rangers (Canadian Forces)

John

[dla4122]

Captain
Gang Investigator/Shift Supervisor

Collateral Duties:
Disciplinary Hearing Officer
(State Jail Minor and Major)

Close quarters Combat/Fire Arms Instructor

[HotelSecurity]

I'm Point Lead (supervisor) the guy with the Red stripe on my shoulder boards.
I am also a serving member of the Canadian Rangers (Canadian Forces)

John
A question. The guys at the airport in Montreal doing the bag checks wear the uniform of the federal government agency that was set up after 9-1-1 & is directed by the former director of the Montreal Police. ( I can't remember it's offical name). But my understanding is that they work for a contract agency. (I believe it is Garda in Montreal).

The federal government rents the airport to a non profit agency that runs it. (Aeoports de Montreal). Before, when it was government run the RCMP patrolled the terminals etc. Now they have their own "Airport Patrol". My understanding is that these people are also contract, they actually work for the Canadian Corps of Commissioners. Can you confirm this also?

[Mall Director]

O.k., its pretty easy to figure out..

Director Of Security
Mall Security Department

Other than title duties:
National OC Instructor
National PPCT Instructor
Board of Regional Security Directors for Rocky Mountain Shopping Centers
Homeland Security Liazon for Northern Colorado
Human Resources and Legal Department Agent
County Probation + Parole Liazon.

Many other little things I could plug, but lets not. I think getting involved in alot of our communities organizations is very helpful, though very time consuming, LOL!

[FederalSecurity]

Where I work, it's pretty simple. I am one of the Security Response Force

Officers. There are four Lieutenants, and the Captain.

[CAPTAIN KOOLAID]

i'm a sergeant my duties are traning, drawing up new post orders,raiped reponse team, Investigator and any thing that high ups don't want to do

[Curtis Baillie]

A friend of mine is responsible for the operation of all security operations for his company (retailer) which includes:


Armed guards
Plainclothes staff
Investigators
A fully equiped SWAT unit
A heavily fortified central alarm station
A company owned armored car service

His business card reads - Head of Security.

Me? I'm the President.

[flashlightcop509]

At my location (and company-wide, for that matter), we really only have 2 designations as far as what could be a considered "rank" (other than Supervisor); S/O's and CPO's... Out of 13 Officers in the immediate area, 6 are CPO's, including Myself and another who are considered the Team Leaders as we've been at this account the longest...

[Andy Taylor]

Our Rank structure is as follows
CEO
Corporate Investigator
Chief of Security---Me
Asst. Chief
LT---has been vacant for 4 years when I was promoted to Asst. Chief
SGT
Corporal
FTO
Officer
We also have EMTs which is a seperate certification and they can be any rank.

[Lawson]

I am "Guard" ... when I was at Wackenhut I was a Custom Protection Officer -Lieutenant, but I did not get along very well with a couple head honchos (the headest honcho was recently fired) so I parted ways with TWC. I liked the company for the most part, but Im happier where I am now.

If things go according to plans, I will soon be either...

Armed Guard 2 for the Washington State Military Department
Security Patrol Officer for the Tacoma School District
or
Fingerprint Technician 1 for the Washington State Patrol.

[Andy Taylor]

headest???:confused:
Is that a word?

[UtahProtectionForce]

our company ranks go like this

Officer
fto/Corpral
Sergeant
LT
Captian
LT Col

all obtainable by employees, i have yet to see an LT col with the company but have seen many capts... after the LT COL is the company owner.

[Lawson]

headest???:confused:
Is that a word?

I think I have the right to make up one new word since its my birthday :D ;)

[ctbgpo]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!!

My rank is Buildings and Grounds Patrol Officer (non-sworn)then there is
Lead BGPO
Lead Supervisory BGPO
Protective services trainee (still not sworn)
All from here down are sworn POST certified Police Officers
Officer
Training officer
Sgt
MSgt.
Lt
Capt
Chief

[Curtis Baillie]

I think I have the right to make up one new word since its my birthday :D ;)What again?

[Chucky]

We only have two ranks.
1. The guy that writes the checks.
2. The guy that cashes the check.

I guess that makes my rank Full Bird check casher.

[N. A. Corbier]

I've often wondered why security companies consider the designation FTO as a rank.

FTO is an acronym for "Field Training Officer," and is usually a title, not a rank. Its a job description, "a person who trains other employees in the field, usually probationary employees."

[Qarlo X64]

I've often wondered why security companies consider the designation FTO as a rank.

FTO is an acronym for "Field Training Officer," and is usually a title, not a rank. Its a job description, "a person who trains other employees in the field, usually probationary employees."

I've often wondered this myself, but in my experience at (4) different PSCs I have worked for... usually an FTO's duties is that and only that. I'd say it be closer in rank to a Corporal in the traditional rank structure, but when an individual is expected to know more or less every post that a PSC is contracted out to and has to train other S/Os... that somehow becomes a rank within it's own sub ranking system. I don't agree with that train of thought, but that seems to be how most companies roll. I for one don't have a problem with simply being an S/O, but I do feel that a pay raise should be up for review (and more than a measly .25cents either) in 6 month intervals with the possibility of a $1.00 raise every year up until a cut off point at the descretion of the PSC, depending on how well the respective S/O does their duty.

This of course is a mindset within the table of operations that never happens, but I've worked under Lieutenants and even a few Security Directors who weren't worth a bucket of piss either, and were usually doing either illegal things on the side or slacking off all together while "the real" S/Os actually carried them and the sag nuts Security Officers just there to collect a paycheck. It's partly the reason I am again in-between PSCs (Private Security Contractor) and left the mall security gig I was working. Out of fourteen officers + the Director, only 3 of us (me being one of them) actually did anything like they were supposed to. But of course we got the lowest wages and **** on by everyone else. It was a bad experience and I personally have learned I do better when fielded to posts where it's just me by myself holding down the respective post, and when it's a CRE (Contract Regulation Enforcement) post along with being O&R. On my own I know I have to understand the post orders to the level and I can't afford to mess up... having others around to work with just means more drama it seems, and personally at 29 I'm too old for needless drama really.

[Andy Taylor]

BHR LAWSON--HAPPY BIRTHDAY!:D

As to the FTO rank designation where I work it technically isn't a rank, although I did list it. The one FTO we have is also second in seniority to everyone here except myself. He has turned down promotions to real supervisor positions (CPL and up) due to the requirement that supervisors be on call 24-7. He becomes the De-facto supervisor on his shift. We had to come up with somthing so new officers would recognize his authority, and yet we didn't want to modify the existing structure. He, along with all supervisors, do traditional FTO duties. Once he retires I doubt we will continue to use the FTO designation.

[Maelstrom]

Hmmm... our heirachy is somewhat simpler

He whom doth writeth the checks
Senior S/O (Supervisor)
S/O

[The Hussard]

were i work we are only 4 s/o so we have only a sergeant and 3 basic agent

[The Hussard]

were i work we are only 4 s/o so we have only a sergeant and 3 basic agent and the security director is not wearing any uniform. In the canadian army reserve im only first class private

[tattedupboy]

At my company, which is run by my brother, the guards do not have ranks. On my resume, I write that my job title is "Security Officer"

[Hank1]

Currently, I am a Lieutenant (Watch Commander) for the SSG Uniformed Patrol Division.

[acula32]

Currently our system is set up as follows:

Director, SGT, and then the specialty titles which each officer must hold.

Training, Crime Prevention, Property, Equipment, Fire Prevention, and so on.

I am the Training Officer. Basically set up and train new personel, book yearly training etc.

[CAPTAIN KOOLAID]

Captain of the rat unit.

[BadBoynMD]

Colonel (Chief of Operations)...