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Tennsix
11-07-2005, 08:17 PM
Where did this guy come from???

davis002
11-07-2005, 08:38 PM
I personally voted that he should be fired. If any of our officers displayed the level of disrespect for others as he does quite frequently on these forums, I would simply terminate employment.

I feel that a vital aspect of being, or becoming, a professional in the private security industry is respect. Respect is only a part of it, but you have to show respect to LEOs. They can be your greatest ally, or your worst enemy. Of course, some LEOs will view security officers as nothing more than "wanna-be" police officers. It is our job, as security officers, to overcome that. The Mayor is simply one of those officers that gives the entire industry a black-eye. He reinforces the stereotypes that I for one have done everything within my power to overcome. The officers in my organization go through the most rigorous and in-depth training than any other private security agency in our state. With that said, The Mayor would of washed out on the first day.

N. A. Corbier
11-07-2005, 09:42 PM
I personally voted that he should be fired. If any of my officers displayed the level of disrespect for others as he does quite frequently on these forums, I would simply terminate employment.

I feel that a vital aspect of being, or becoming, a professional in the private security industry is respect. Respect is only a part of it, but you have to show respect to LEOs. They can be your greatest ally, or your worst enemy. Of course, some LEOs will view security officers as nothing more than "wanna-be" police officers. It is our job, as security officers, to overcome that. The Mayor is simply one of those officers that gives the entire industry a black-eye. He reinforces the stereotypes that I for one have done everything within my power to overcome. The officers in my organization go through the most rigorous and in-depth training than any other private security agency in our state. With that said, The Mayor would of washed out on the first day.

You know, by the time I'm done, I want to be able to justify that training claim, as well. And publish the training standards openly, so that I can ask clients to ask their current provider not only for their training standards, but how they'll prove them.

I'm not quite sure how to vote, just yet. I'm going to have to review some of the Mayor's posts, and then get back to the voting. Then again, he is in the People's Republic of California, and who knows how they do things out there.

And The Mayor, please do not go ballistic in your reply to this thread. It just looks bad.

Zebra One
11-07-2005, 10:09 PM
The Mayor is simply one of those officers that gives the entire industry a black-eye. He reinforces the stereotypes that I for one have done everything within my power to overcome. The officers in my organization go through the most rigorous and in-depth training than any other private security agency in our state. With that said, The Mayor would of washed out on the first day.
You can say that again. Out of all the posts in here, The Mayor reinforces the impression of the flaky security guard.

Like I said in an earlier post, he is an embarrassment to the true professionals.

N. A. Corbier
11-07-2005, 10:12 PM
You can say that again. Out of all the posts in here, The Mayor reinforces the impression of the flaky security guard.

Like I said in an earlier post, he is an embarrassment to the true professionals.
To be honest, I'm not going to even attempt to counter that, as the posts speak for themselves. However, I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out what his demise will be.

Anyone have any suggestions as to sway me?

Zebra One
11-07-2005, 10:28 PM
To be honest, I'm not going to even attempt to counter that, as the posts speak for themselves. However, I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out what his demise will be.

Anyone have any suggestions as to sway me?
Well, in one of his posts he thought it was funny when the wayward S/O engaged in a fist fight with the skate boarder. So, that would lead you to believe he is a believer in excessive and unwarranted force.

However, in another post he brags about two altercations he has been involved in, one in particular where he was shoved and utilized an "arm bar." Give me a break, he has not seen anything yet even remotely life endangering. :rolleyes: Maybe he will go down for cowardice.

In one thread he brags about his verbal judo, which is necessary because he is shrimp, yet he claims to be the overweight 6'2" monster in another.

Well, this could lead a reasonable and prudent person to place their money that he will be terminated for being caught in one too many lies.

Of course, he is also extremely pugnacious in nature, so he might be terminated for insubordination.

That's it! He will be fired for a combination of insubordination and violation of integrity issues.

N. A. Corbier
11-07-2005, 10:40 PM
Voted. The integrity issues warranted an "arrested."

Zebra One
11-07-2005, 11:13 PM
Voted. The integrity issues warranted an "arrested."
Hey, you are right. The clown also mentioned something about carrying a gun around with him in violation of CA state licensing regulations. He is going to get busted, big time.

Maybe while he is in the county jail, they can make him the hall monitor?

ARealCop
11-07-2005, 11:18 PM
Sounds like he's the Mayor of Stupidville :D

Zebra One
11-07-2005, 11:20 PM
Sounds like he's the Mayor of Stupidville :D
You better watch out, that Mayor character is huge and knows how to put you in an arm bar! :D

N. A. Corbier
11-07-2005, 11:22 PM
Sounds like he's the Mayor of Stupidville :D
In re: Sig.

Dealt with. Next subject? Seriously, though... That sig is somewhat inflamatory.

As far as The Mayor... You know, I forgot about that, Zebra One, your right. He IS carrying on a civilian CCW when his BSIS license takes precidence.

Zebra One
11-07-2005, 11:27 PM
In re: Sig.

Dealt with. Next subject? Seriously, though... That sig is somewhat inflamatory.

As far as The Mayor... You know, I forgot about that, Zebra One, your right. He IS carrying on a civilian CCW when his BSIS license takes precidence.
Yep, he has got some major issues. Too bad they don't have the money to run him through a pysch evaluation before hiring. :eek:

I see great potential for him causing his employer a huge loss of money through vicarious liability.

I have a couple of buddies with SFPD, maybe I can have them check on the clown. He has given enough information to figure out a way to identify him.

N. A. Corbier
11-07-2005, 11:32 PM
Yep, he has got some major issues. Too bad they don't have the money to run him through a pysch evaluation before hiring. :eek:

I see great potential for him causing his employer a huge loss of money through vicarious liability.

I have a couple of buddies with SFPD, maybe I can have them check on the clown. He has given enough information to figure out a way to identify him.
Ah, the great words vicarious liability. You know, I know of quite a few companies who do a written psych as a condition of employment, after the conditional offer is made. Guess what? I'm thinking its a good idea, and that maybe I should look into factoring that cost in the startup fees.

If I can afford M4s, I can afford a paper punch psych eval. After all, if freaking WALMART is giving them... So can a security company.

The_Mayor
11-08-2005, 12:09 PM
Thanks for the support team! :D


I have a couple of buddies with SFPD, maybe I can have them check on the clown. He has given enough information to figure out a way to identify him.

I call BS on you...you will never know who I am unless I tell you. :cool:

N. A. Corbier
11-08-2005, 03:00 PM
Thanks for the support team! :D



I call BS on you...you will never know who I am unless I tell you. :cool:
Support is given to those who are acting professional. Your ... No, no, no, I'm not even getting into this. Someone find me a cop or a polaroid picture so I can write my trespass warning and go back to playing Doom 3 in the cruiser.

The_Mayor
11-08-2005, 03:09 PM
I'm not even getting into this. Someone find me a cop or a polaroid picture so I can write my trespass warning and go back to playing Doom 3 in the cruiser.

That is a great attitude to have on your shift. Just rely on someone else.....how productive. :rolleyes:

N. A. Corbier
11-08-2005, 05:16 PM
That is a great attitude to have on your shift. Just rely on someone else.....how productive. :rolleyes:

You missed my thread on "trespass warnings and law enforcement officers," no? Most jurisdictions require positive proof of a trespass warning for it to be legally enforcable. Hence, you need either FRE qualified video, FRE qualified photography, or a law enforcement officer to act as a witness to the violation.

Unfornately, my ICANN Internet Police badge hasn't come yet.

The_Mayor
11-08-2005, 05:44 PM
Unfornately, my ICANN Internet Police badge hasn't come yet.

If you had it sent to you DHL..I wouldn't be surprised if it never gets to you. Hopefully, you had it sent Fed Ex.

Mr. Security
11-08-2005, 05:48 PM
Ah, the great words vicarious liability. You know, I know of quite a few companies who do a written psych as a condition of employment, after the conditional offer is made. Guess what? I'm thinking its a good idea, and that maybe I should look into factoring that cost in the startup fees.

If I can afford M4s, I can afford a paper punch psych eval. After all, if freaking WALMART is giving them... So can a security company.

I highly recommend it. Guardsmark uses it. Over 500 questions, but worth it!

The_Mayor
11-08-2005, 05:51 PM
Our company uses the MMPI (Minnesota Multi-Phasic Inventory)..very long and redundant.....I am sure it serves some purpose.

Mr. Security
11-08-2005, 06:02 PM
Our company uses the MMPI (Minnesota Multi-Phasic Inventory)..very long and redundant.....I am sure it serves some purpose.

It does help. Not a perfect solution though.

With all due respect, would you be willing to amend your signature so that it isn't as offensive? Thank you:)

The_Mayor
11-08-2005, 06:34 PM
With all due respect, would you be willing to amend your signature so that it isn't as offensive? Thank you:)

Sure, not a problem. :)

Mr. Security
11-08-2005, 10:14 PM
Thank you sir. I appreciate it. :)

Zebra One
11-09-2005, 08:04 AM
Thank you sir. I appreciate it. :)
Mr. Security,

The Moron, I mean Mayor, will not adjust his signature line. It all part of the ego this character requires to feed his lack of self worth. He truly does believe he is "above the law" and this will be his demise.

The_Mayor
11-09-2005, 12:11 PM
Mr. Security,

The Moron, I mean Mayor, will not adjust his signature line. It all part of the ego this character requires to feed his lack of self worth. He truly does believe he is "above the law" and this will be his demise.

Another lie from the drama prince..er I mean.. Zebra One. :rolleyes:

My signature was changed yesterday, hence that is why Mr. Security thanked me. ;)

1stWatch
11-09-2005, 08:06 PM
That signature only exists to emulate Steven Segal.

BoxerGuard
11-10-2005, 06:02 PM
I'm glad you realize that..so many people take things waaaayyy too seriously. ;)

But he is scewn loco

The_Mayor
11-10-2005, 07:07 PM
Not sure what you mean by that......And yes it does seem that those who are too serious carry around a lot of latent anger.

Arff312
11-10-2005, 08:13 PM
In re: Sig.

Dealt with. Next subject? Seriously, though... That sig is somewhat inflamatory.

As far as The Mayor... You know, I forgot about that, Zebra One, your right. He IS carrying on a civilian CCW when his BSIS license takes precidence.

Not to stick up for the mayor but In CA you can carry concealed on duty as klong as you 1. Have a BSIS Firearms permit 2. Have a valid state CCW and 3. Have approval to carry from your agency. If you dont meet ALL those requirements you are in violation of the law.

N. A. Corbier
11-11-2005, 02:13 AM
Not to stick up for the mayor but In CA you can carry concealed on duty as klong as you 1. Have a BSIS Firearms permit 2. Have a valid state CCW and 3. Have approval to carry from your agency. If you dont meet ALL those requirements you are in violation of the law.

I seem to remember he stated he did not have a BSIS Firearms Permit, and that he was assigned to an unarmed post, which would mean that the agency did not classify it as an approved carry post.

We'll see what he says.

Arff312
11-11-2005, 03:56 AM
I understand that i was just posting the requirements to carry concealed here.